Toms T.e.c.s Ecu
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dac69er
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there has also been people running emanage and not getting very good results too.
i agree they arent the best but they do generally work well and give decent, and more importantly, noticeable gain
sera_beetle
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yeah andrew took the front off my one and thereare about 9 switches he flick a few of them and it made the car run like a dog lol
so it does have different maps but i dont think we will ever find out what they are...
... and if anyone can find some info i will send them some beers :beer:
gayan_GT
Lifer
so basically this is a plug and play ECU which alters the A/F accordingly... hmmmm a bit overpriced i see but reliable im sure...
well with regards to the self learning option on some ECU's , yes there is a thing like this... one of my buddies over here has a mines plug and play ECU for the EP and once u plug it in , it runs 1 bar... but once you plug it in the car starts missing and backfiring like a chicken with a fork up in his u knw what
but after few runs its fine , i think this because of the self learning/tuning factor...
well correct me if im wrong but this happens all the time...
and monty i wish i did
well with regards to the self learning option on some ECU's , yes there is a thing like this... one of my buddies over here has a mines plug and play ECU for the EP and once u plug it in , it runs 1 bar... but once you plug it in the car starts missing and backfiring like a chicken with a fork up in his u knw what
but after few runs its fine , i think this because of the self learning/tuning factor...well correct me if im wrong but this happens all the time...
and monty i wish i did
sx_turbo
Lifer
so basically this is a plug and play ECU which alters the A/F accordingly... hmmmm a bit overpriced i see but reliable im sure...
well with regards to the self learning option on some ECU's , yes there is a thing like this... one of my buddies over here has a mines plug and play ECU for the EP and once u plug it in , it runs 1 bar... but once you plug it in the car starts missing and backfiring like a chicken with a fork up in his u knw what
well correct me if im wrong but this happens all the time...
and monty i wish i did
it's not self learning, it is setup to search for the optimum tune by getting the target a/f's and advancing till it starts suffering from knock then it retards it slightly.
the stock ecu does exactly the same, in fact all stock ecu's do the same, but they are just not as aggressive as the aftermarket ones.
they are able to adjust themselves to cope with all different scenario's like colder weather, and hotter weather etc etc etc
gayan_GT
Lifer
Fatman
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These plug in options do NOT SELF LEARN based on A/F ratios.
The standard O2 sensor is a narrow band, it's only effective at telling the ECU when it has reached stoichiometric a/f ratio e.g 14.7, definitely NOT where you want to be under any sort of high boost.
It may very well advance timing till knock and then back off some which would account for peoples impressions of improved economy and feeling more lively but I can just about guarantee that one of these ECU's will not solve your fueling issues if you have made more than minor modifications to your turbo or fueling system. Take CAUTION when using one of these ECU's as advanced timing will feel great but the retard mechanism is totally unknown and it may not cope nearly as well with a bad batch of fuel or much higher intake air temperatures, these can lead to knock which can literally destroy your nice new 4e in seconds.
Save your spare change and buy a proper ECU tuned by somebody who knows what they're doing.
The standard O2 sensor is a narrow band, it's only effective at telling the ECU when it has reached stoichiometric a/f ratio e.g 14.7, definitely NOT where you want to be under any sort of high boost.
It may very well advance timing till knock and then back off some which would account for peoples impressions of improved economy and feeling more lively but I can just about guarantee that one of these ECU's will not solve your fueling issues if you have made more than minor modifications to your turbo or fueling system. Take CAUTION when using one of these ECU's as advanced timing will feel great but the retard mechanism is totally unknown and it may not cope nearly as well with a bad batch of fuel or much higher intake air temperatures, these can lead to knock which can literally destroy your nice new 4e in seconds.
Save your spare change and buy a proper ECU tuned by somebody who knows what they're doing.
Ted
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more people have blown up 4es using emanage/power fc than any mines/blitz/jam unit. lots of things arent known about them but what is known is that they usually run too rich therefore providing a slightly safer tune than emanage which i admit is much better.
saying they can destroy a 4e in seconds is certainly not my experience. ive seen quite a few of these units and if anything they are too safe. i got mine for 350 quid. they can run std injectors up to over 80%, the std ecu only allows 66%. add this to a bit of advance timing and they are usefull.
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Fatman
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To be precise I said knock can destroy your engine in seconds, not these ECU's... Also not saying that they don't serve their purpose, just trying to get some facts out there. People seem to attribute miracles to these things at times
If people have blown up their motors with proper ECU's it would seem they need to find a more reliable tuner. The limitation isn't in the hardware.
If people have blown up their motors with proper ECU's it would seem they need to find a more reliable tuner. The limitation isn't in the hardware.
TO82
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Certain Tom's Tec ECU's can be remapped, and the software is available from Tom's. i am currently trying to find out if this will work with the 4E-FTE ecu's.
As the only info i can find shows that they can remap differnet lexus models, with the Tom's ecu fitted. This is the only Standalone pre mapped ECU i know of which may possibly be remappable for the starlets. so it may have to potential to be a very good ecu.
This is what TOM's has to say:
We completely analyzed the latest Toyota computer, and the technology of the computer tune that TOM'S was proud of reached it if, furthermore, I announced a flash bulb ROM type of new development of IT times going straight on in 2002. Flash bulb ROM, it use "Data transformer kit", and it is the epoch-making system which it draws a commercial PC and the various data which it is connected, and was written in at flash bulb ROM in TEC II freely, and it can renew.
If we mount with TEC II flash bulb ROM and control a pair of endless data, we are similar as owner oneself thought and can direct sports driving. If we mount with TEC II flash bulb ROM and control a pair of endless data, we are similar as owner oneself thought and can direct sports driving.
Of course the advanced function finishes knowing an engine computer of every Toyota car and analyzes it, and it is a splendid achievement only for the TOM'S whom it managed. Of course the advanced function finishes knowing an engine computer of every Toyota car and analyzes it, and it is a splendid achievement only for the TOM'S whom it managed.
As the only info i can find shows that they can remap differnet lexus models, with the Tom's ecu fitted. This is the only Standalone pre mapped ECU i know of which may possibly be remappable for the starlets. so it may have to potential to be a very good ecu.
This is what TOM's has to say:
We completely analyzed the latest Toyota computer, and the technology of the computer tune that TOM'S was proud of reached it if, furthermore, I announced a flash bulb ROM type of new development of IT times going straight on in 2002. Flash bulb ROM, it use "Data transformer kit", and it is the epoch-making system which it draws a commercial PC and the various data which it is connected, and was written in at flash bulb ROM in TEC II freely, and it can renew.
If we mount with TEC II flash bulb ROM and control a pair of endless data, we are similar as owner oneself thought and can direct sports driving. If we mount with TEC II flash bulb ROM and control a pair of endless data, we are similar as owner oneself thought and can direct sports driving.
Of course the advanced function finishes knowing an engine computer of every Toyota car and analyzes it, and it is a splendid achievement only for the TOM'S whom it managed. Of course the advanced function finishes knowing an engine computer of every Toyota car and analyzes it, and it is a splendid achievement only for the TOM'S whom it managed.