Adam_Glanza
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ive got 460cc injectors, havent fitted them yet tho.
gonna be using the e-manage blue surely the "injector lag" wont be that bad?
gonna be using the e-manage blue surely the "injector lag" wont be that bad?
Dre's EP82
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Stop at 200bhp.
Hey guys just need a bit of help on the list of things i could use in order to run 1bar on standard turbo getting 200bhp
or td04 basic set up to get 200bhp.
Got a budget of £600 to spend in a weeks time and want to know which is the best and runing it safe.
Hey guys just need a bit of help on the list of things i could use in order to run 1bar on standard turbo getting 200bhp
or td04 basic set up to get 200bhp.
Got a budget of £600 to spend in a weeks time and want to know which is the best and runing it safe.
white-ep82
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wepr or speedvision kit is just a tad more than that - but should see you to 200bhp
Jeffers_21
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200bhp on a std ct9 is pretty hard and would say you would need more than £600
this question has been covered many time's so check out the search button.
have you done any mod's before to the car? if not then £600 will get you a nice exhaust a hks actuator some sort of air filter and a fuel reg. then you could turn up the boost useing the actuator, add a bit more fuel with the fpr, and you should be looking at a fairly good increase. however it wont be near the 200 mark but any increase in the starlet make's a big diffrance.
be perpared to spend more than you think tho as modding these cars can come with some problems, after all most are over 10yr's old now
if you really want to make it quicker i would sort out the suspension and handeling mod's 1st might not incrase performance but it makes a huge diffrence to how hard you can drive them
this question has been covered many time's so check out the search button.
have you done any mod's before to the car? if not then £600 will get you a nice exhaust a hks actuator some sort of air filter and a fuel reg. then you could turn up the boost useing the actuator, add a bit more fuel with the fpr, and you should be looking at a fairly good increase. however it wont be near the 200 mark but any increase in the starlet make's a big diffrance.
be perpared to spend more than you think tho as modding these cars can come with some problems, after all most are over 10yr's old now
if you really want to make it quicker i would sort out the suspension and handeling mod's 1st might not incrase performance but it makes a huge diffrence to how hard you can drive them
starbogt
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If you don't want to go over 200bhp then get a hybrid there's 1 on ebay for 450quid he sells them from the UK either take off standard manifold and spend 3hours with a dremmel on runner 3 or buy a new manifold and get a fpr and an fcd but you'll definately need better than standard suspension. you won't lose the response of the standard ct9 either
Dre's EP82
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ok then..
i had in mind to get:
fmic
fpr
hks fcd
oil cooler
decat pipe
and probably a boost controller...
would that set up be ok with changing my standard ecu tho?
i had in mind to get:
fmic
fpr
hks fcd
oil cooler
decat pipe
and probably a boost controller...
would that set up be ok with changing my standard ecu tho?
starbogt
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sounds like a good plan but will you really need the oil cooler with the amount of power you're wanting? What are you aiming to use the car for? it will all run on a standard ECU instead of the boost controller just yet get a HKS actuator they will hold boost better and you can adjust boost with them too if you're on a tight budget.
Dre's EP82
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ok then mate so really no need for an oil cooler and boost controller then?
wat about a decat/screamer pipe aswell mate?
Mi mate was giving me a tdo4 turbo so was thinking if i should bother with putting that on?
wat about a decat/screamer pipe aswell mate?
Mi mate was giving me a tdo4 turbo so was thinking if i should bother with putting that on?
Monkfish
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My current setup is running 179bhp but you'd be damn lucky to get all of it fitted for ~£600. Best bet if the car is totally stock would be to get some decent suspension, wheels and brakes before you even think about fettling under the bonnet. Coilovers are always a worthy investment, but they're £600 on their own for D2's. Once you've sorted that out, you will need...
FMIC
Exhaust Manifold
HKS Actuator @ 1 Bar
RRFPR
Walboro 255 fuel pump
2.25"-2.5" exhaust system + de-cat
NGK Iridium Plugs (Heat range 7)
Magnecor leads
The best part of 180bhp in a car weighing 860kg's stock is plenty fast enough to be getting on with. The mods above are also an excellent base for going down the larger turbo route. But remember, brakes and handling first!
FMIC
Exhaust Manifold
HKS Actuator @ 1 Bar
RRFPR
Walboro 255 fuel pump
2.25"-2.5" exhaust system + de-cat
NGK Iridium Plugs (Heat range 7)
Magnecor leads
The best part of 180bhp in a car weighing 860kg's stock is plenty fast enough to be getting on with. The mods above are also an excellent base for going down the larger turbo route. But remember, brakes and handling first!
GT-TD04
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Ah i hear that a lot on here but tbh handling and brakes are last on my list, but saying that i don't often drive hard
Dane_Bristol
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Yeah i honestly think that with great power you need handling and brakes. Its one thing having 180 bhp for example but he car will hanle like a dog with standard suspension and no handling mods. I think to compliment the two handling and brakes should come first.
Then again each to their own if you prefer to do mods and no handling or brakes so be it.
Then again each to their own if you prefer to do mods and no handling or brakes so be it.
Monkfish
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Last on the list?! So, you're going to increase the engine output by ~40% and not touch the stock fade-for-fun brakes? The previous owner of my car did just this. Do some heavy braking from national speed and by the second time, you've got next to no brakes. When I say "upgrade the brakes" you don't have to go out and piss £1000 on a monsterous 3G brake kit. Decent pads, lines and Dot5.1 fluid will suffice and will cost ~£200. Money well spent in my opinion, but if you've got a death wish, by all means, crack on.
I really don't understand why anyone in their right mind would want to upgrade the power and not even think of touching the brakes. Adding an exhaust or relocating the filter won't make a huge difference, but when you start upping the boost and fitting FMIC's, the power starts to ramp up and the stock brakes just can't cope. As above, you don't have to spend a fortune and it's money well spent.
GT-TD04
Supermoderator
Well all i have left is the mani and fpr+map.
Then im getting 3G 10 grooves with mintex pads,cusco brake stop cylinder and probably braided lines. Then anti lift kit, rear anti roll bar and adjustable panhard rod kit
The reason i didn't see the need to get these first is because i don't drive it on very much and far less now with the bad weather and roads
starbogt
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the only problems you suffer with standard brakes is driving above the speed limit and braking lots once after another this either gives fade or juddering.... I still have standard brakes but I'm looking at tracking my car in the future and I'm getting braided lines 1st and then discs pads etc this is where brakes are essential. If you drive on the limit expect brakes to be poor with a standard or modified engine.
Elaine
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I have to agree with monkfish I am running about 175bhp and lets just say I am regretting not getting my brakes and handling setup before I got more power!!
As you have £600 I think it would be a really good investment in getting new disk, pad and lines you will still have about £400 left over that would get you a FMIC.
I would recommend you getting some up rated engine mounts as well. Mine were on there way out and adding more power just killed them a lot faster!
As you have £600 I think it would be a really good investment in getting new disk, pad and lines you will still have about £400 left over that would get you a FMIC.
I would recommend you getting some up rated engine mounts as well. Mine were on there way out and adding more power just killed them a lot faster!
starbogt
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obviously you drive fast then elaine just cos you have more power doesn't mean you have to use it on the roads. My mods are similar to yours and I've never put myself in a position on the road where my brakes are inadequate. I can drive really well and I'm not a slow driver at all and my brakes haven't needed pads in the last year and a half, just maintenance. As I said in previous posts if you drive very fast then expect brakes to be poo, learn not to drive on your brakes. I ride a motorbike and 1 thing this teaches you is to always look further ahead than you would normally thus slowing down earlier for hazards etc and this eliminates the oh I need bigger brakes cos everyone says I need them syndrome. If I didn't want to track my car I would have no reason for upgrading lines or disc and pads for road use.
just cos you have more power doesn't mean you have to use it on the roads. My mods are similar to yours and I've never put myself in a position on the road where my brakes are inadequate. I can drive really well and I'm not a slow driver at all and my brakes haven't needed pads in the last year and a half, just maintenance. As I said in previous posts if you drive very fast then expect brakes to be poo, learn not to drive on your brakes. I ride a motorbike and 1 thing this teaches you is to always look further ahead than you would normally thus slowing down earlier for hazards etc and this eliminates the oh I need bigger brakes cos everyone says I need them syndrome. If I didn't want to track my car I would have no reason for upgrading lines or disc and pads for road use.ep82 gt boy
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how much do you have to turn the fuel pressure up to run 1 bar and has anyone got a dremel i could borrow