car pulls slightly left or right

[ChrisStarletGT]

i think i saw on here there as sum1 in oldham who can set up the whole geometry of the car for £100 any1 know who he is and how can get in touch with him?

 

[dark_knight]

ball joint

ChrisStarletGT, removing the lower ball joint or pinch bolts at the point where the damper meets the knuckle will give you enough leeway to swing out the drive shafts but like you said, the ball joint removal messes less with your camber settings.
all the best with your geometry man-hunt..

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

cant find the post i had a link to the site other day and cant find that either lol

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

found the site lol googled it and xame up purple that i been on it before lol here the link for anybody else who mite be havin similar problems to me http://www.drurylaneservices.com/book-online/

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

Would havin an adjustable pan hard rod affect the trackin?

 

[dark_knight]

lateral rod

yes ChrisStarletGT, the panhard -- if unadjusted -- will cause some slight sense of misalignment. here's a quick concept drawing i made up to help you understand it. either +ve or -ve offset can also be caused by a lateral rod of wrong length..

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

been had car sorted to day and it come out mint

 

[weeJohn]

I would have went for a little more -ve camber on the front if it was me but the fact its driving better for you is good news. Are you going to go back to the diff fitters and ask them for some money towards you having to put right what they ballsed up?

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

dont know if they did sommet or not the car drove fine before it went in then came out pullin to the right

 

[Paul_JJ]

No wonder it's pulling to the side, look at the rear setup.... I know it's green but it's not the same on both sides!

 

[Paul_JJ]

How on earth they adjust the TOE on the rear if it's not adjustable on Starlets?

 

[dark_knight]

rear camber + toe?

i was going to ask the same thing Paul_JJ, the rear is a dead axle with no chance of camber or toe adjustments, so how did they do it..?

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

from adjusting the panhard rod it sorted the rear toe out i was amazed too lol

 

[dark_knight]

how it works: the lateral/panhard rod

no way ChrisStarletGT. the panhard controls the entire axle, and it primarily adjusts the tire movement on the x-axis -- for when the car is lowered/raised. here's a little sketch i made a pal of mine a while back. i'm guessing the toe angles you speak of are very minute/minuscule and as one tire moves in to correct a +ve angle, it will defo draw a -ve angle on the other tire.. :/

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

i dont know he undone the rear antiroll bar and adjusted the panhard and it came out like this and it handling spot on so cant complain lol

 

[weeJohn]

Moving the rear axle sideways (by adjusting the length of the panhard rod) will have an affect on rear wheel camber and therefore toe, and to a very small degree caster also. Remember there is more connecting the rear axle to the car than just the panhard rod and the shocks.

 

[dark_knight]

weeJohn, my only bone to pick with this is that the degrees achievable by this are far too small.. to make any 'life-threatening differences' imho.. ..unless you are making adjustments that will drop/raise the car 4 inches..

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

so john it is right that the rear toe got better coz the panhard was adjusted

 

[dark_knight]

yes. ChristStarletGT, weeJohn is right that toe can be adjusted by panhard adjustment -- but remember when one wheel is inching towards +ve toe, the other will be headed to the -ve -- so you must find the perfect centre. to minuscule degrees imo. variables that could not have been the original problem in the first place.. :/
camber however, cannot be adjusted like this. i'm sure i'm not the only one going insane at the mention of these possibilities.. :/

 

[ChrisStarletGT]

no the original problem was national tyres are shite at setting the front toe thats y it was pulling everything else being sorted was just a bonus lol