High under bonnet temps...

Big_Daddy

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what rad cap are you using? i stuck 1.1bar and i notice more heat from the engine re-stuck the 0.9 bar back on.
In the summer recommend lower temp thermo stat, helps keeps the temp down.
 

sx_turbo

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the zisco mani was pretty heavily heat wrapped, i done this for that exact reason ;)

your new td04 mani isnt heat wrapped, as far as i'm aware, and that would be the reason for the increased temps ;)
 

fred

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Heat wrap manifold to a non heat wrap one?

Obvious really, and your probably ragging it more with the TD04 ;)
 

gglavin

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is this for track use or road use, raise the bonnet at the back for street use. track= remove a headlight :cool:
 

hybrid_G4E

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the same prob with mine. but what would be the ideal under hood temp?

i reckon the only way to keep heat away from other engine parts is by keeping it in the exhaust pipes.

i am currently in the process of sourcing some thermal wraps, will wrap (already heatshielded the mani with a custom insulated heat shield) the downpipe & the turbo's exhaust side housing (or what ever they may call it.)

my aim is to lower the engine bay's temp as much as possible.
will probably do some air ducting (?). mine also with a civic rad, fan is mostly on while in town (i don't like that).

IMO excessive heat = more power lost.

i would love to put something like these on the side panels (with proper ducting in the engine bay to match), would prolly help as i never like the look of a raised bonnet.

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.. but the idea of cutting holes fer them, in case they don't really look as good as i thought it would, is pretty scary!
 
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gglavin

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the same prob with mine. but what would be the ideal under hood temp?

i reckon the only way to keep heat away from other engine parts is by keeping it in the exhaust pipes.

i am currently in the process of sourcing some thermal wraps, will wrap (already heatshielded the mani with a custom insulated heat shield) the downpipe & the turbo's exhaust side housing (or what ever they may call it.)

my aim is to lower the engine bay's temp as much as possible.
will probably do some air ducting (?). mine also with a civic rad, fan is mostly on while in town (i don't like that).

IMO excessive heat = more power lost.

i would love to put something like these on the side panels (with proper ducting in the engine bay to match), would prolly help as i never like the look of a raised bonnet.

1213882715-21.jpg


.. but the idea of cutting holes fer them, in case they don't really look as good as i thought it would, is pretty scary!


get yourself a practice bonnet, see how it turns out, thermo wrap is a must for high power imo. cold air feeds & reverse scoop
 

munday

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No point in adding vents or whatever unless you actually measure the air pressures acting on different parts of the bodywork/engine bay so you know where air will be entering/exiting.

For example on a normal car (not with a scoop like the gt/glanza) if you raise the rear of the bonnet air will actually be entering from the base of the widscreen rather than escaping from the engine bay
 

Dane_Bristol

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Ceramic Coating the manifold helps reduce temps cant say my engine bay is very hot even after a little go up the motorway. The Thermal Ceramic Coating really makes a big difference, its just not for everyone due to the cost ! :(
 

MarcoFTE

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For example on a normal car (not with a scoop like the gt/glanza) if you raise the rear of the bonnet air will actually be entering from the base of the widscreen rather than escaping from the engine bay

I think it will do the opposite. The air travelling over the bonnet creates a surge where the bonnet is raised at the end. That drags the hot air away. I also removed one of the plates underneath my car. Just 'opening' the front allows more air flow :)

Just my 2 cents tbh:)
 

munday

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I think it will do the opposite. The air travelling over the bonnet creates a surge where the bonnet is raised at the end. That drags the hot air away. I also removed one of the plates underneath my car. Just 'opening' the front allows more air flow :)

Just my 2 cents tbh:)

But the area at the back of the bonnet is a high pressure area, higher than under the bonnet in the majority of cars, so the airflow would be from the outside in. This is probably irrelevant on a starlet though considering the big scoop!

Removing the undertray...hmm thats a bit of a grey area. The airflow under the car is very turbulant, i would think its best to have some sort of undertray present if only to lessen the drag. Ive seen tests where removing the standard undertray of a car worsened the intercooler efficiency, with a redesigned undertray intake temps dropped from 65 to 47 degrees C.

The only way to know for sure....get testing :p

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dwyer-Magnehe...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318

One of them with a plastic tube mounted where you want to measure the air pressure, easy peasy

:drive:
 

MarcoFTE

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Well, I don't have a scoop so that is a difference :)
I think that the air travelling over my bonnet will create a surge effect where bonnet ends (and is raised), due to the fact that on highway/motorway the speed will be too high. Compare it with the wing from an airplane and the difference in pressure (only the bonnet has a different shape and there is not real air travelling under the bonnet.
 
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