Jam ECU
- Thread starter GlanzaV1.3
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so you hate peoples attitudes when they dont agree with yours??
''its not all about maximum gains all the time''??
maybe not for you man but it is for me...
when im paying out 400£ for something i want as much gains as i can get...and for 400£ a second hand emanage or similar can be bought and mapped for maximum gains...if you want to pay 400£ for a lesser setup who am i to argue?thats your choice...i personally prefer to do it as best i can and get maximum hp+torque and the best setup for my cars,and not just skimp it.....it depends on how far you plan to go with your car imo...if you want it done ''properly'' get a decent ecu mapped for your setup,not somebody elses...i think you need to take it easy man,that time of the month eh?
j/k....its a difference of opinions thats all...
dac69er
Super Moderator
we have argued this before. i read what you had posted about what people thought about bypassing the solenoid on their glanzas and thats what pissed me off about the way you belittled their opinions. its as though they arent allowed to think it makes a decent difference.
thats why i said something on this thread!
thats why i said something on this thread!
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Guye
Lifer
I actually view the jam ecu as a proper ecu. You guys are lucky where you have shops to tune standalones all over the place. Over here you pay just as much as the e-manage to get it mapped and still there is no telling if you have gotten a good tune or not. To much trial and error over here and one bad tune destroys engines. Just plug the jam ecu in and let it do it's thing. It took a couple weeks of running the car before I notice a significant difference in performance, but what a difference it was! Worth every cent imo for hassle free preformance upgrade, yet to each his own.
Well Said.
everyones opinions will never be the same dac69er....personally i view things like bypassing the solenoid as a very very small upgrade..but hey thats my opinion and obviously not the same as those who reckon it makes a big difference like yourself...and my opinion will always be a fully mappable standalone is best,its more expensive but worth the extrra pennies imo..it all depends on what people want from their cars isnt it?and its just my way of thinking that half measures arent my thing,maybe it does it for some people,but hey each to their own,a jam ecu mapped for someone elses car is an upgrade after all over stock...its a difference of opinions not worth getting lairy over it just because you use one man
dac69er
Super Moderator
i dont think the jam ecu is all that mate, when i 1st got it i was dissapointed tbh. now i have sorted the other problems with the car im happy with it and it does make a difference which in my eyes is all it was going to do.
bypassing the solenoid i wouldnt know about myself but im just saying that if people think it makes a big difference then thats what they think and they are happy, theres no need to tell them they are wrong! in my eyes the mods that make the most difference are the ones that cost nothing.
yes i want a power fc but when they appear i just dont seem to have the funds at the time so the jam is something i thought i would try out and im happy with it.
bypassing the solenoid i wouldnt know about myself but im just saying that if people think it makes a big difference then thats what they think and they are happy, theres no need to tell them they are wrong! in my eyes the mods that make the most difference are the ones that cost nothing.
yes i want a power fc but when they appear i just dont seem to have the funds at the time so the jam is something i thought i would try out and im happy with it.
yes the mods that you do yourself that cost nothing in labour are very satisfying i agree,but there are limits imo,you will always have to pay someone with superior knowledge to to something(ie.mapping etc) but the fact of having to pay someone doesnt bother me one bit,although it may bother some people...but at the end of the day you pay for what you get in most cases..also not telling anyone their wrong saying bypassing a soleniod makes a big difference..im just pointing out that to me it was very very minimal,but then again i got my avcr + 85% of my mods put on at once so as i would feel a nice difference(133bhp-185bhp...)before i put on the hybrid turbo...and yes your right the jam is worth a try,never said it wasnt,but their very overpriced for the gains considering...
dac69er
Super Moderator
im wary of paying people to do things on my car as so far everything thats been done on my car by someone else has been shite. im just very wary. thats another reason i went for a jam ecu.
1st time i took my car to a rolling road the rollers were rubbing on my anti roll bar and it actually wore a flat on the bottom of the arb, that pissed me off!
1st time i took my car to a rolling road the rollers were rubbing on my anti roll bar and it actually wore a flat on the bottom of the arb, that pissed me off!
im sure that pissed you off mate,it would piss anybody off,but obviously you are bringing your car to the wrong people who dont know how to do a decent job
but that doesnt mean you can tar all tuners with the same brush becuase of your experiences...i happily shell out for tuners to work on my car but i dont let tossers who dunno what their at near my cars..
dac69er
Super Moderator
engine advantages are meant to be really good. never heard a bad thing about them!
Dave burwash swears by them but i was not impressed by his attitude and his lack of knowledge.
the people i got to spray a few parts on my car were meant to be good but i want pleased. look good for about 6months to a year then looks shite. just dont know where to go tbh, i ask about and get opinions and also see their work and go to them and get fucked over!
Dave burwash swears by them but i was not impressed by his attitude and his lack of knowledge.
the people i got to spray a few parts on my car were meant to be good but i want pleased. look good for about 6months to a year then looks shite. just dont know where to go tbh, i ask about and get opinions and also see their work and go to them and get fucked over!
i wonder if that was the jam ecu....i made the same torque on my first ever glanza dyno with just a blitz filter/full 5zigen system/.85bar boost,stock ecu,it also made 157bhp with just those mods (no jam ecu)
GT-TD04
Supermoderator
thats pretty good but the 5zigen would be better than the scorpion one i have no?
what bhp did you make out of intrest
sounds like you have been well and truly rode mate...bad luck,lucky ive not came across timewaster like that(fingers crossed) but then again i always have a look around and suss out before making appointments to do with the cars...i wouldnt just go on someones word,i like to see for myself(apart from last mapping session,but that tuner is well known in the prodrift circle)
157bhp at the fly with the 2.5 5zigen/.85bar boost/blitz filter and also 162lbft
dunno anything about scorpion exhaust lad sorry
dac69er
Super Moderator
1st bloke i went to for spray work was in the newspaper and seemed decent. went a got a qoute and he had a porsche in his workshop he was doing some spraywork on. his work was utter crap. went back and he had another go and it wasnt much better.
second bloke i was told was really good. saw a few things he had done before and was really impressed. mine looked good when 1st done but like i said after a year it was looking shabby.
as for engine advantages i would rather not go there after that experience. i found a place a bit closer called LPS and they seem decent but im not too sure what their mapping skills on japanese cars are like tbh.
second bloke i was told was really good. saw a few things he had done before and was really impressed. mine looked good when 1st done but like i said after a year it was looking shabby.
as for engine advantages i would rather not go there after that experience. i found a place a bit closer called LPS and they seem decent but im not too sure what their mapping skills on japanese cars are like tbh.
well fingers crossed you luck changes as regards to paying for crap work,suss out a few places and enquire about their experience in mapping jap cars etc etc before committing on word of mouth i think?a porshe i the workshop dont mean shit tho,i guess im lucky as regards to spraying as ive a good mate who is the only person id trust to spray anything,you should see the job he done on my old sir