maybe its not too late? if we had a leader like this!!

Aidan-G

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sorry Faisal... I have my own opinion on who pulls the strings at the top of society and dont need another conspiracy theory. Lets stick to facts here. The reason I have posted the videos I have is because they show actual muslims in positions of authority speaking about what they believe and showing us what goes on in a muslims mind.

Now this guy is a extremeist. Doesnt represent islam as he's talking about killing innocent people. And who allows this guy to be in authority.

i think you took him up wrong?

good thread guys:)

and dylan!..id love to have a drunken chat with you:haha:(in a non gay way)lol
 

gv1.3

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so in the video that I posted from the "undercover mosque" documentary... you are saying that the people who are preaching in this mosque have gotten the interpretation of the book wrong? sorry I dont understand what you mean... if the people who preach in your mosques cant get it right then who can?

I did watch the beginning of that documentary but as soon as they started showing the dollar bill with the all seeing eye I turned it off... I am sick looking at conspiracy videos online. The videos I put up are of ACTUAL people speaking there mind... it is an insight in to what is taught by muslims to muslims and whilst it might seem normal that a muslim tells you if you are a dentist and a gay man comes in to see you get the biggest needle you can and hurt him with it... to the rest of us normal people that just sounds sick and twisted... just seeing that is enough to make me NEVER do business with anyone involved in the muslim faith because god only knows what else they are being taught.

This is not me making stuff up... this is my view which has been formed by watching ACTUAL REAL FACTUAL video footage taken in a prominent place of muslim worship. Dont blame me... go and speak to the guy in the video and tell him he should not be teaching this stuff in mosques... but you cant do that because you have to stand by what he says and not question it.

If a priest in a catholic church was preaching how to harm non catholics or gay people etc there would be public outcry.. because this is islam we are talking about we are not allowed question it or somehow we are imagining it and he didnt really mean what he said... BULLSHIT... extremist crap is being taught in mosques and it has been caught on camera... we all knew it before this but this is just the evidence.
 

Phil

Super Moderator
also, i dont see how islam is excusable just because only certain percentage are suicide bombers or preachers of slaughter, what about the other percentage that arent murderers but dont necessarily disagree with the murderers?!?!? they are as bad!?

Its insane to defend islam.

Phil
 

Sean_GT

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Dispatches wer very clever with what they showed on that documentary. They wud take little sections of what they said & not show what was said before or after that sentence.

This video is from one of the people who was accused of being a extremeist. It is a reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20wq6gCpgb4&feature=related

I find it quite ironic that the only posts you have ever made on this forum are to do with subjects like this.

Is there any reason imparticular for that?
 

gv1.3

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he is saying he doesnt condemn everything that was said and he doesnt accept everything that was said. I agree that the way something is edited can make a big difference to the context of how it appears but some of the stuff that was said is just plainly unacceptable.

The scenario that reply was just shot in is very obviously rehearsed and the questions being asked are known to the guy being interviewed. Had the dispatches documentary never been aired these guys would have not seen anything wrong with what was being said. Unfortunately I think its a little too late for them to try come out and address what is being taught in their mosque... they were exposed.
 

STARLET N/A

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I find it quite ironic that the only posts you have ever made on this forum are to do with subjects like this.

Is there any reason imparticular for that?


Errr. I do post on other threads actually. I dont have a progress thread, but I post on of for sale sections and comment on the build threads of others members.

So what if i post on these types of threads more than others.
 
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STARLET N/A

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he is saying he doesnt condemn everything that was said and he doesnt accept everything that was said. I agree that the way something is edited can make a big difference to the context of how it appears but some of the stuff that was said is just plainly unacceptable.

The scenario that reply was just shot in is very obviously rehearsed and the questions being asked are known to the guy being interviewed. Had the dispatches documentary never been aired these guys would have not seen anything wrong with what was being said. Unfortunately I think its a little too late for them to try come out and address what is being taught in their mosque... they were exposed.

I was shockd to when I watched the dispatched video. But after I watched the reply it was clear that they had took sentences out of context.
 

gv1.3

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I was shockd to when I watched the dispatched video. But after I watched the reply it was clear that they had took sentences out of context.

It is possible that they may have taken somethings out of context but not everything. The comment regarding an example of being a dentist was just messed up and says a lot about the mentality of the person who is teaching.
 

STARLET N/A

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It is possible that they may have taken somethings out of context but not everything. The comment regarding an example of being a dentist was just messed up and says a lot about the mentality of the person who is teaching.

I need to watch that documentary again and refresh my memory. Its common that preachers will give a extreme example of something then say 'no, this is wrong because.......'

Can u link me that part your on about pls.
 

faisalgtturbo

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Dispatches wer very clever with what they showed on that documentary. They wud take little sections of what they said & not show what was said before or after that sentence.

This video is from one of the people who was accused of being a extremeist. It is a reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20wq6gCpgb4&feature=related


this is what i mean alot is edited not shown

unless somebody reputable like dylan was there i wouldnt believe any of it i am sorry..
 

Sean_GT

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this is what i mean alot is edited not shown

unless somebody reputable like dylan was there i wouldnt believe any of it i am sorry..

I think its pretty irrelevant what was edited and not shown.

The facts are there they were preaching extremism.

And to be honest it would not supprise me if you thought there was some kind of conspiracy involved bit like the 9/11 attacks and the war:homer:
 

faisalgtturbo

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I think its pretty irrelevant what was edited and not shown.

The facts are there they were preaching extremism.

And to be honest it would not supprise me if you thought there was some kind of conspiracy involved bit like the 9/11 attacks and the war:homer:



come on sean... stop pulling my todger your telling me u havent seen the conspericy theories about 9/11

even if u ask americans they will tell u.... ..

but again it depends on the context shown...
so on so forth



ok another thing is this the excution of saddam, this took place on our (muslim) christmas (eid) day why was that done? and what was the reason behind it.....


faisal
 

faisalgtturbo

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also if extreemism is so bad how comes
guantanamo bay exists....

would u not agree that falls in to the same bracket...

there were minority of innocent muslims in there....

one of which has sold his story to some famous papers...



faisal
 

Phil

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come on sean... stop pulling my todger your telling me u havent seen the conspericy theories about 9/11

even if u ask americans they will tell u.... ..

but again it depends on the context shown...
so on so forth



ok another thing is this the excution of saddam, this took place on our (muslim) christmas (eid) day why was that done? and what was the reason behind it.....


faisal

yeah....conspiracies is what they were lol

but seriously whether big brother allowed the attacks or not doesnt change the fact that the sicko's committed the crimes! do you think the attacks were wrong?

as for saddam's death...

the reason probably was to show the muslim world that when you commit mass murder under any name its time to stick your religion up your ass and stop breathing.

it would be the same if the person was any religion, you really think that if the president of the USA was charged with crimes involving mass murder of his own people that the judge would have made sure the scumbags excution didnt double up with any important dates? doubt it especially if the president was hiding behind or supported by some insane religion.

Phil
 
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Phil

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also if extreemism is so bad how comes
guantanamo bay exists....

would u not agree that falls in to the same bracket...

there were minority of innocent muslims in there....

one of which has sold his story to some famous papers...



faisal

guantanamo bay exists just to give the freedom to treat people rough to get answers.

the innocent muslims in there certainly were a minority. and the fella that sold his story should maybe start pointing the finger at the people of the same religion that decided to kill innocent folk. in a mass murder inquiry some people are going to get caught up in the rush to find the killers, and if the attack is carried out by islamic extremists then chances are the innocent people who get caught up in the case will be similar.

its unfortunate granted. maybe it'll ward people off acting in any way or meeting with anyone who is extreme in terms of there religion.

Phil
 

faisalgtturbo

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yeah....conspiracies is what they were lol

but seriously whether big brother allowed the attacks or not doesnt change the fact that the sicko's committed the crimes! do you think the attacks were wrong?

as for saddam's death...

the reason probably was to show the muslim world that when you commit mass murder under any name its time to stick your religion up your ass and stop breathing.

it would be the same if the person was any religion, you really think that if the president of the USA was charged with crimes involving mass murder of his own people that the judge would have made sure the scumbags excution didnt double up with any important dates? doubt it especially if the president was hiding behind or supported by some insane religion.

Phil



its not something to like when innocent people die...
the 9/11 attacks were wrong full stop!!!


but the wrong do 'ers are still out there... (my opinion)



also what u say about the USA PM is not true i dont know much about
abama but mr g w bush had immunity from any crime he could not be charged
for anything.... so its one rule for him and another for any one else or other PM...


saddam death was a piss take............. in my eyes he was just as guilty
as g w bush ....


faisal
 

gv1.3

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its not something to like when innocent people die...
the 9/11 attacks were wrong full stop!!!


but the wrong do 'ers are still out there... (my opinion)



also what u say about the USA PM is not true i dont know much about
abama but mr g w bush had immunity from any crime he could not be charged
for anything.... so its one rule for him and another for any one else or other PM...


saddam death was a piss take............. in my eyes he was just as guilty
as g w bush ....


faisal

there is 100% evidence of what saddam did to his own people. He deserved to die and Id happily piss on his grave. Show me 100% evidence of what bush has done to wipe out thousands of americans?

I am not a bush supporter by any means but comparing him to saddam is just silly. Personally I think they should have left saddam there murdering and butchering his own people in the name of islam... it got lots of publicity and showed the world what islamic states do to their own people nevermind what they have in store for the rest of the world... again exposed... its all about exposure. The world needs to be exposed to what islam is teaching its followers and how it treats people under its control in order for the world to fight against islamic extremism in all of its dressed up forms.

Could you imagine if the vatican were broadcasting live to churches in the UK on a sunday telling the congregation the sort of stuff that is in that undercover mosque video! It wouldnt happen... the only religion extreme enough to engage in that crap these days is islam.
 

STARLET N/A

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saddam never ruled iraq as a islamic state. I rele dont get america. 1 minuite they are selling him weapons to bomb the russians and next they are invading his country saying 'i got weapons of mass destruction' which never exsisted. And then drain the country for its oil and absolutley ruin it.

Also if islam is so horrid why are soo many people converting to it??
 
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