Proxes R1R™

[Toby@ToyTuning.com]

Yeah I think a lot of it comes down to the corner weights of the car, the Starlet is very light compared to something like a Civic and we found it just doesn't seem to spread the weight over the 195's just couldn't get on with them, tried lots of variations with temp and pressure.

Don't forget the 165 stretches out to near on a 185 except you reduce the sidewall at the same time down to maybe a 40, so a 165/50 ends up like a 185/40 if that makes sense. The 195/50's just seem to bounce around and really lack confidence, well this was our findings

T

 

[Jonny-GTTuning]

yeah I did read your post about 165/50/15
it is still hard to think 195/50/15 woud have less grip especialy when TOYO recomend to use them on 6inch rims. but if you have tested both and had better results with 165. it must have a reason.

That's very strange Jonny had better result with parrada. as Toby said, paradas are in T1R category. I had Neovo AD07, wich are supposed to be even better than parradas. they were best street tyres I have used on dry, but didn't last long. I expect 888 to be much better than AD07

It is strange i would have thought the toyos would have been better buy maybe the paradas just suit the car or me better, who nos. lol I definatly like the paradas a lot better.

 

[Johnny_C]

i dnt think toyos are that expensive,i can get t1r's 195/45/r16 for 52 euros plus the vat from a contact.

 

[azerty]

Toby, which a048r size do you use then ? streched too ?


this tyre is interresting too

Proxes RA1™

http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires.asp?lpid=18968&name=Proxes%20RA1%99&category=sport

no 195/50/15 thought. but they doe 205/50/15 and 225/45/15

 

[Jonny-GTTuning]

Tripple 8's are a lot more expensive though.

 

[Johnny_C]

Tripple 8's are a lot more expensive though.

yeah,semi slick though lad.
id like to try a different tyre on my next set of wheels though.
u reckon the Yokohama Paradas spec2 are a good job then jonny?

 

[Toby@ToyTuning.com]

Toby, which a048r size do you use then ? streched too ?

Usually use them for qtr mile in street class where you are not allowed full slicks. You can get away with a 195/50 on a 7.5inch rim as the side walls are much stiffer than 888 so they don't go off and flex/bounce. They, imo, are far better than 888 in the dry as they physically have less tread pattern so more contact. In the wet I find them hopeless, this goes without saying as they have less tread pattern so they can't disperse the water as well which is why 888 are a good all rounder, not as good in the dry but you don't die in the wet.

We were spinning up in 5th with a058r in "damp" conditions.

T

 

[Jonny-GTTuning]

yeah,semi slick though lad.
id like to try a different tyre on my next set of wheels though.
u reckon the Yokohama Paradas spec2 are a good job then jonny?

Semi slick but still road legal.

They are a great tyre, best ive ever had, you wont be dissapointed!

 

[Johnny_C]

Semi slick but still road legal.

They are a great tyre, best ive ever had, you wont be dissapointed!

how are they in the wet:drive:

 

[Jonny-GTTuning]

how are they in the wet:drive:

fantastic, even in the very greasy roads from the salt these tyres work brilliant.

I decided to really test the tyres one nite after i got them, the tyres took the punishment, unfortuinatly the brakes didnt. lol

 

[Johnny_C]

fantastic, even in the very greasy roads from the salt these tyres work brilliant.

I decided to really test the tyres one nite after i got them, the tyres took the punishment, unfortuinatly the brakes didnt. lol

hmmm,must price them at the weekend,if their shit ill ring ur neck,lol!

 

[pc18]

Toby whats that little teddy hanging off the back of your old demo car? lol

 

[Jonny-GTTuning]

hmmm,must price them at the weekend,if their shit ill ring ur neck,lol!

If they are shit il let you. lol

 

[Johnny_C]

If they are shit il let you. lol

lol!

 

[Toby@ToyTuning.com]

Toby whats that little teddy hanging off the back of your old demo car? lol

God knows Steve put it on there, JDM he tells me

Quite cool though I must admit :teach:

 

[pc18]

haha yeah i like it!

 

[durmz]

ive never tried a semi slick mainly because my poor car does alot of motorway miles and itd be a bit of a waste of money, but i did try the paradas and eagle f1s on a fiesta zetec-s i had last year, paradas were good, alot better than t1r's i thought, but imo the eagle f1's were brilliant, ive yet to try either on my glanza, but the f1's loved it on my zetec-s, it was lowered 60mm and it didnt have enough power to understeer on a typical sized roundabout lol the glanza is a fair bit lighter so i dno how theyd go on one

 

[durmz]

God knows Steve put it on there, JDM he tells me

Quite cool though I must admit :teach:

the teddy is complete genius lol, must get a bit dirty though! lol he see the washing machine much? lol

 

[Adam_Glanza]

paradas arent a semi slick tyre, there just a normal road legal compound tyre.

i really do think your chatting out of your ass a little bit mate, maybe you didnt get the semi slicks up to temperature before ragging it because they are 10% BETTER than normal road legal tyres, why would they bother using them if they werent in motorsport

 

[nexia201]

Yeah i got my R888 for 105 euro each but they are wicked in the dry (but to be fair need a bit of heat in them to get working)! at the 1/4 mile you cant get anything better than them (only slicks would be better) but then my friend on an integra said they are crap! on the Aygo i have the 195 / 50 / 15 and I can almost keep up with evo's when launching and can easily beat glanzas by a very fair lenght buut then my car is different than yours but dont think its because of the lightness of the car that they dont work its probably more because of the setup.