something interesting and concerning about the stock intercooler

weeJohn

Lifer
you do realise thats actually more exspensive than the ones i posted a link to, and the one i listed has the thread adaptor already included.

Also you sure this one you linked to the resistances are the same for temperature as a MAT sensor isn't just a MAT sensor, they do differ in resistances which will effect there readings

Tim :)

Yes, but in the link you posted the listing has ended and the seller is not answering any messages.

Its a GM part# 25036751, is that the same as you fitted?
 
not sure didn't check the part number.

i know he sells those for a while as he advertises on the gt4oc i believe, just keep trying mate he'll be back as there a popular seller.

Tim
 

weeJohn

Lifer
not sure didn't check the part number.

i know he sells those for a while as he advertises on the gt4oc i believe, just keep trying mate he'll be back as there a popular seller.

Tim

I am happy enough with what I have bought, a few pound will not keep the mods on budget as it has been busted a long time ago lol.
 

Aga

Member +
sorry for ressurecting this thread from the dead, but i got a question. does anyone know if such "open element" air temp sensors are affected by water methanol injection?
 

weeJohn

Lifer
Try an RX7 forum Aga, they use these type of IAT sensor in them and I would assume a few have went with water/meth.

The sensor works well in my car, very interesting to watch how the temps change under differnet driving conditions, I always thought my intercooler was a bit small but i am a lot happier with it now lol.
 
you mean in terms of a longevity effect on it? i can't see it having a problem personally, but if you mean in picking up the temperature changes then yes you can see it drop as soon as the WI is actvated

Tim :)
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
can anyone give me a part number to this or link to ebya please? as links posted have expired..
 

elton

Member +
Hhmm... If i get one of these 'uprated' IAT sensors, any modifications to be done? eg. adding resistors to the harness, etc
 

elton

Member +
tried emailing the mentioned emaila ddress. didn't seem to get a reply.

Anywhere else I can get one in the UK? What car is it from?
 
the plug is different but this is supplied just chop the old one off and add this one. then its plug and play.

i went through the temperature resistances before i fitted and there the same its just the sensor refesh rate is higher its also not shielded to give a more accurate figure. where the stock one sits inside a copper jacket which gets heat soaked as well and just reads the jacket temperature over the actual air. this is why it appears the air intake doesn't drop back down quickly when you lift off.

Tim :)
 

mickyboy

Member +
See this is my debate..people turn the boost up to 1.2bar on a ct9 hybrid but wont gain anymore power then what you would running it a 1bar.. infact i think after a good run you would lose more power running @ 1.2bar then what it would @1bar because of the heat facter...It would be nice to see some test done on that.
 
i agree. if i did say 2/3/4 full throttle run, then changed down to a corner and did the same run again, i would notice a definite drop in power on the 2nd lost of acceleration using this stock ic. and intakes temps would be very high 50+

thats only at 0.9bar on a k1 using stock topmount

Tim :)
 

elton

Member +
I'll probably get one of these sensors, remap the eM and put it on an RR again. Got a reply from the dude that sells it :

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Hi,

No problem. I can post one out straight away with an adapter to suit the Toyota installation. The best option is to buy one off Ebay:



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250731435923&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT



This will fit all Toyota models listed.

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Hi,



Can you do me favour and post a link to the sensor and this email address on your forum? Looks like some enquires are not coming through.



jonathan@fennelldevelopments.co.uk



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250731435923&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT



Please ask them to search for RIAT sensor on Ebay, works in most countries.

And he can be contacted via the above email address in one of the earlier threads
 
ok guys just bought an ARC topmount today and after a good clean up of inside and out i thought i'd do some testing. and a little disapointed to be honest with you, especially considering the hype everyone gives this thing on the forum. Spec of the car hasn't changed from when i started this thread.

Did a few tests on my bench flow tester that i use for porting cylinder heads. Anyway tested against the stock one. The ARC has a 0.4psi pressure drop more than standard so its more restrictive. and was showing more restriction when i turned the machine up as high as it would go compaired to stock. This was also shown when i did a before and after test of the cores, outside temps the same i would hit 0.9bar solid with the stock IC, 0.88bar solid with the ARC showing a greater pressure drop, ok not labratory accurate but you get the idea.

i couldn't relaly do temperature tests accurately apart from its been about 5 degree's here today and with the old stock one if i booted it 2/3/4th to 100mph my intake temps would peak at 62 degree's using that fast acting sensor. tried it again today and it was flucuation between 4/5 outside temp and i still hit 60 degree doing the same run. Not very accurate i know but you get an idea that there similar in cooling ability. both massivly heat soaked on what is a cold day from only 3 gear pull that lasted what 10-15 seconds maximum. This was done on the move not sat on a dyno so seeing real world conditions. tempersatures were outside 5 degree's both showed 20-21 intake before i started the test

Only real benifit i noticed from this is that it returned to ambiant temps faster after you lift off where the stock would hold onto its temp average 10 seconds longer than the arc before ballancing out at hte same temp.

thought people would find this intersted.
Wish i had a dyno so i could do a back to back power run, but butt dyno says no difference and temperature and flow tests show no difference so i'm going to take an educated guess and say there would be negligable power gains either.

Tim :)
 
think this is in the wrong section as well, think i should have put it into engine/mechanical if anyone wants to move it now i've done these intercooler tests

Tim :)
 

Paul_JJ

Member +
Have you tried putting the heat reflecting material under the untercooler??? Cost J10 on the ebay, I haven't tried on the Intercooler yet, but put it on the EFI pipe above the intercooler and blind me, the difference was VERY noticeable! I could even put my hand on the pipe and hold it there, after a hard run and really hot mani, but before without any material I couldn't even touch it - this is how hot it was!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TURBO-EXHAUST...CarParts_SM&hash=item1c18586c7e#ht_2216wt_906

It's a few inches away of the mani and it's just warm!
 
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