Td04 Users And Civic Rads?????
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Monkfish
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Jay
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A warped head or block is generally a result of insufficent cooling. I'd guess the extra power generated will create more heat and if the cooling system isn't there to support it or is in a poor condition you get such problems. The headgasket would usually go before then but in some circumstances you can be unlucky.
The core issue here is the strain on the cooling system caused by higher power output.
I've seen enough standard 4efte's with problems to know that a lot of them are vunerable to cooling problems. Get the heat and the pressure down and it stands to reason the cooling circuits will cope but the big question is has there been damage caused in the meantime?
Fucking excellent thread by the way to all involved - good topic indeed.
The core issue here is the strain on the cooling system caused by higher power output.
I've seen enough standard 4efte's with problems to know that a lot of them are vunerable to cooling problems. Get the heat and the pressure down and it stands to reason the cooling circuits will cope but the big question is has there been damage caused in the meantime?
Fucking excellent thread by the way to all involved - good topic indeed.
Jay
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That sounds like you've thought ahead mate, should help things.
My grey GT is in a poor state. I'd imagine the water channels in the head and block will be gunked up with corrosion. Might go for a healthy engine rather than waste my time with cooling problems. To date it's the worse cooling system I've seen in a GT. Although there was a Glanza that was on par with it.
A lesson to other members is to maintain the coolant strength.
My grey GT is in a poor state. I'd imagine the water channels in the head and block will be gunked up with corrosion. Might go for a healthy engine rather than waste my time with cooling problems. To date it's the worse cooling system I've seen in a GT. Although there was a Glanza that was on par with it.
A lesson to other members is to maintain the coolant strength.
Kelly
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when bens headgasket went originally was told the block was fine and we had caught it in enough time. The second we noticed all the symptoms the head got changed.
Like nick said above we have a speedvision headgasket in their now and surely the head couldnt fail again so soon? and any warping would have been noticeable when the headgasket got changed?
Is it not just a case of ------ these starlets were built for a ct9 and 130bhp ? and not 200+bhp and bigger turbo's? and hence the fact its too much pressure in the system?
Like nick said above we have a speedvision headgasket in their now and surely the head couldnt fail again so soon? and any warping would have been noticeable when the headgasket got changed?
Is it not just a case of ------ these starlets were built for a ct9 and 130bhp ? and not 200+bhp and bigger turbo's? and hence the fact its too much pressure in the system?
sx_turbo
Lifer
there seems to be or was, quite a few high powered starlets in japan, and as far as i'm aware there wasnt the same problems, and there is a fair few people on this site who have high powered starlets and dont have problems.
have you thought about the possibility that the speedvision headgasket may be crap, and not sealing properly? that is always a possibility.
is the speedvision gasket a metal gasket?
Kelly
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yeh its a metal headgasket and was told it was good for higher bhp than we putting out. If it is the head gasket again i seriously will be annoyed. The gasket in bens car appeared to be a standard one and it had taken that much boost for sooooo long so many years surely a metal headgasket would outlast it?
Kelly
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i had a similiar prob on a mini... (lol i know they are totaly different) but it was doing the same and the problem was that the thermostat was half way to his death... has anyone try replacing it? (im just wondering)
nick has brand new sard low temp thermostat and so does ben (altho his isnt brand new) but not that old either.
sx_turbo
Lifer
kelly, did the metal headgasket have a rubber coating, or was there thin rubber walls going round the headgasket and round the oil and water lines?
if it hasnt then it would need sealing with some high temp instant gasket and this would be your problem. i can almost garuntee it.
if it hasnt then it would need sealing with some high temp instant gasket and this would be your problem. i can almost garuntee it.
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Kelly
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not sure cant remember to be honest, maybe someone else knows the answer ? like said above its speedvision head gasket.
Kelly
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lol did that last time when head gasket was going .......
TBH im scared of doing it i dont want it to be the gasket!!! i will put the car up for sale if it is! ive had enough.
Dub-Se7en
Lifer
as far as i'm aware and after seeking advice from the traders, you can put a metal hg on dry ie no sealant, or at least you can with a cruise one.
when you last had the car in pieces did you check the block to see if it was warped? cos my head was spot on, but the block was warped by 3 thou in the middle.
which car is it that is causing the probs? not the auto sureley?
when you last had the car in pieces did you check the block to see if it was warped? cos my head was spot on, but the block was warped by 3 thou in the middle.
which car is it that is causing the probs? not the auto sureley?
Kelly
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no not the auto the k24 one!
not sure what was checked as paid a garage to do it.
i know the check the head pressure test blah blah blah but your sayin warping wouldnt show?we havent got the same symtoms like last time! last time it was frothing and overflowing with lil boost i.e 0.50bar! but now its only when the car is really ragged/top end and there is no bubbling with the rad cap off etc like did when head gasket was going but maybe its a case of hasnt got to that stage yet?
sx_turbo
Lifer
the cruise gasket has a rubber coating which helps seal it.
if it doesnt have any form of rubber sealant on the gasket, it will fail. it was one of the major causes of rover's headgasket problem
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As Rory mentions was the head warped at all and did they check it. With the Cruise and Zep gaskets you DO NOT need sealant, dry fit is fine and we never have any problems. Also how good are these headgaskets? I always feel people are trying to cut corners with cost and end up having problems but it may be something very simple. That's quite a potent car so it could so with some top quailty parts!
Worth speaking to the garage and see what they checked.
Tobs
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