Video. Ian Tomlinson pushed shoved by Police officer last week. He died minutes after

Blak_Mamber

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I was there on that Wednesday, in the thick of it lol.

Work up here and thought i would stroll along and see whats happening.

Thought it was really calm when i arrived there at lunchtime, but you could feel something was brewing up.

Sooo many people about, was manic!!

That footage is disgraceful and feel well sorry for that man. Did nothing wrong at all.
 
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cantbassed

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i totally agree.

im joining the btp police in may, and i really hope that this stuff don't happen in that force either.
 

Beaker

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My opinion on this is that there may well be more to this than meets the eye. People should not see this and think that the polive killed him, thats just pathetic. This is only a few seconds of film. What was he doing before this? He got pushed over then seemed to be fine. If anything its the protestors who stopped the authorities from getting him first aid who should be ashamed of themselves. Listen to the crowd shouting insults at the cops.
The problems in this country stem from a lack of respect for the law. This will not help that but the police have to have our respect and if you are asked to move on from a hostile situation like this, you should say yes sir and get out of there, not wander along with your hands in your pockets. A full investigation is being held and I think that all this flaming of the police should be kept in check until the results of that come out.
 

Ryno

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i'm sorry..... but i think it looks like he was asking for what happened in that video!

unless he has serious mental issues, he must have some serious attitude to have that posture and walk like that in front of riot police 'with dogs'

and the way he reacted to when he was pushed was a typical trouble maker response like something happened before that clip!

who out of anyone on here can put their hands up and say that looks like a completely natrual posture and response to being pushed on the floor for no reason by the police with dogs?!?!

like fuck i'd be hovering on the floor playing thick giving where he was and the protests!
 

AdDaMan

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Ryno i dont agree at all. He was just acting casual as he had nothing to do with the protest so knew(thought) the police would walk straight by....but no..
Disgusting.
 

Dar81

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The article has much more information that the clip has.

He died of a heart attack and the investigation is to see whether or not the shove by the copper lead to this. So, the heart attack killed him, not the police officer but it may be a direct result of the police officers actions.

Whether this fella was moving slowly or not, that does not give ANYBODY the right to clip on the back of the legs with a baton and then fire him onto the ground.

Fair enough, we do see stories like this quite often and most of the time, there is plenty more to the story that completely changes your perspective on the matter but, to be honest, stories that lead to 'bandwagon jumpers' are generally found in tabloid papers or reported on tabloid news stations, like Sky News. No offence if you read those papers or watch Sky News but that's the reality.

The police should have the respect of the citizens and, as I stated in my original post, I do not agree at all with the trouble caused by the protesters but, whether this man died or not, there's no excuse for this behaviour.

We have this all the time in Ireland. Big 'hard men' (and women) coppers who complain about not being given the respect that they think they deserve.. but incidents like this don't do any police force any favours.

Plus, anybody will tell you.. don't ever push someone, in the back, who has their hands in their pockets.. unless you want to inflict harm upon them.

Just for the record, I’m not some sort of tree hugging, protesting do-gooder.. I just think this was out of order.
 

wee-jo

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Why was he walking so slow like that? Surely he would have heard the police behind him and maybe sped up a little? Looks like he was maybe trying to provoke a reaction imo.
 
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