Big Turbos
- Thread starter cole
- Start date
i just found this link if not already discovered by some. has a lot of "real" info on these turbos we talking about in this thread.
should be helpful.
http://www.stealth316.com/2-3s-compflowmaps.htm
should be helpful.
http://www.stealth316.com/2-3s-compflowmaps.htm
Rory
Lifer
Ok read my post again....
Yes i do run a TD04 and it performs well.
READ my post before commenting.
A hybrid "normally" means bigger than stock.
Now a TD04 in my opinion is perfect for the 4E, now if you go for a hybrid option then you will lag like hell. and to me that pointless, unless you are an out and out drag racer.
Going by Dyno charts from the 5e setups, they are nothing until around 4.5k to 5k. The only place for that is the drags (as AZE_b proved with the first to go into the 12s) Now a 4E with a smmaller displacement will have more lag...
Your chances.... Endless if you have a cheque book.
Yes i do run a TD04 and it performs well.
READ my post before commenting.
A hybrid "normally" means bigger than stock.
Now a TD04 in my opinion is perfect for the 4E, now if you go for a hybrid option then you will lag like hell. and to me that pointless, unless you are an out and out drag racer.
Going by Dyno charts from the 5e setups, they are nothing until around 4.5k to 5k. The only place for that is the drags (as AZE_b proved with the first to go into the 12s) Now a 4E with a smmaller displacement will have more lag...
Your chances.... Endless if you have a cheque book.
lol sorry rory has obv studied the compressor charts and knows the exact specs and ar's of afp's hybrids.. Standard td04's are obv no good are they rory.. Thats why so many members use them ! So if a td04 is no good on a 4e what chance do me and dan and others have who have decent sized turbo's..
What makes it even funnier is that you ran/ run a td04
Anyhows..
glanzamike89
Fresh Recruit
so wat about td05 14g wat sort of boost do people run on them. i have 1 on a 4e and it comes on only 8 psi mind at 4500. also i herd its hard to keep the inlet temps down on these turbos if u up the boost more thn say a td04 from a wrx is this true??
glanzamike89
Fresh Recruit
yh i have m8 ortye donno where i herd that 2 thn lol.
cheer m8
cheer m8
Dane_Bristol
Member +
Hey Mate,
Nice upgrade you got
Yeah this is my TD05 14G boost graph. Makes 20 PSI bar by 4700rpm. There are so many variations of TD05 mate thing is as yours is probably off a Evo perhaps compressor wheels and exhaust housings will differ from make to make, so will total output. You can clearly see that by you getting 8 PSI by 4500 is really making that turbo pretty laggy. Where as my 14G is making 20 PSI at 4700 rpm, quiet a big difference.
EDIT: Graph is WHP
glanzamike89
Fresh Recruit
wow yh quite a difference in lag lol i will try and post up my rr graphs to see wat every1 thinks
cole
Member +
Ok read my post again....
Yes i do run a TD04 and it performs well.
READ my post before commenting.
A hybrid "normally" means bigger than stock.
Now a TD04 in my opinion is perfect for the 4E, now if you go for a hybrid option then you will lag like hell. and to me that pointless, unless you are an out and out drag racer.
Going by Dyno charts from the 5e setups, they are nothing until around 4.5k to 5k. The only place for that is the drags (as AZE_b proved with the first to go into the 12s) Now a 4E with a smmaller displacement will have more lag...
Your chances.... Endless if you have a cheque book.
Rory, thats like saying if you use a hybrid CT9, it'll be crap! AFAIK, the AF unit uses the same exhaust turbine but with a slightly larger compressor wheel anda few other tweeks, to keep pretty much the stock td04 spool time, but to flow upto 320bhp+. Now surely its gotta be better than a bigass td05 for lag, bit of an in between turbo?
Not having a go or anything, just reading what has been said, and what is written on the AFP website. At the end of the day the subaru TD04 is designed for a 2.0 too and works well.
glanzamike89
Fresh Recruit
yer get them up
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/glanzamike89/Photo-0015.jpg
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/glanzamike89/Photo-0013.jpg
cant reli c the last 1 it made 186 on the first run but a bit lean thn 176 to rich thn 180
only got a fpr atm got a emanage blue but just got to find the time to get it fitted and mapped
it also made 152.7 lbft of tourque
does this sound about rite???
cheers guys
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cole
Member +
if you use the bottom link on your photobucket acount then paste it into your message the picture will come up on here mate
Dane_Bristol
Member +
They arnt very clear mate lol
_GAZ_EP85_
Member +
got a good vid of abbott's 290 bhp going from third gear and aze 5e going from 4th gear from about 60-70mph and the result was abit embarrassing :haha:
the 200cc a BIG difference in drivabilty and spool time, td04's have nest to no lag and the hybrid i had was on song at 3k,
when a someone says "HYBRID" that could mean a million different types of turbo and not just a bigger comp wheel
the 200cc a BIG difference in drivabilty and spool time, td04's have nest to no lag and the hybrid i had was on song at 3k,
when a someone says "HYBRID" that could mean a million different types of turbo and not just a bigger comp wheel
Phil
Super Moderator
if a hybrid ct9 is anything to go by then the more powerful ones just seem to have more lag than the less powerful ones!?
a really "good ct9 hybrid" seems to lag and deliver power like a standard td04? lol
id imagine that a "good td04 hybrid" at least in the eyes of the scooby owners would be something that would almost replicate a bigger turbos delivery. the lesser td04 hybrids will probably be a half way house not as much lag as a td05 but more than td04.
Phil
a really "good ct9 hybrid" seems to lag and deliver power like a standard td04? lol
id imagine that a "good td04 hybrid" at least in the eyes of the scooby owners would be something that would almost replicate a bigger turbos delivery. the lesser td04 hybrids will probably be a half way house not as much lag as a td05 but more than td04.
Phil
Dan3SGTE
Member +
Fishey, I wouldnt look at graphs in to much detail...
Drive Azes car and i can say it has decent delivery even before the turbo has spooled up... You floor it and it doesnt take long for turbo to kick you in your seat while on other 4E set ups they take a while and dont give the same build up...
Im not being funny but i cant see any 4e set up pulling past Azes car, it has mightly acceleration, One of the only cars i know would say may have been up my 3sgte starlets arse...
Would have been close even on the motorway..... And mines a 2.0litre!
Drive Azes car and i can say it has decent delivery even before the turbo has spooled up... You floor it and it doesnt take long for turbo to kick you in your seat while on other 4E set ups they take a while and dont give the same build up...
Im not being funny but i cant see any 4e set up pulling past Azes car, it has mightly acceleration, One of the only cars i know would say may have been up my 3sgte starlets arse...
Would have been close even on the motorway..... And mines a 2.0litre!
Sheldon
Malta Area Rep.
Rory
Lifer
I understand what you are saying.
But im not refering to the Hybrid CT9, that doesnt come into question.
Yep a stock TD04 works very well, i can vouch for that.
As a comparison, i did run the WEPR hybrid, CT20/CT9 configuration, Laggy as hell.
Until someone buys one and trys it, then we will never know if they will work or not.
But as Aze states, you can probaly hybrid a TD04 to suit the 1.3, but it wont be an on the shelf item.
But im not refering to the Hybrid CT9, that doesnt come into question.
Yep a stock TD04 works very well, i can vouch for that.
As a comparison, i did run the WEPR hybrid, CT20/CT9 configuration, Laggy as hell.
Until someone buys one and trys it, then we will never know if they will work or not.
But as Aze states, you can probaly hybrid a TD04 to suit the 1.3, but it wont be an on the shelf item.
Ok Rory
Well i may well try one out for the hell of it middle of next year, then i can put some feedback on it. If its crap i'm sure i could move it on a subaru forum easy enough and should lose too much benjamins lol!
Lol love how heated the "other" argument it getting though!
Well i may well try one out for the hell of it middle of next year, then i can put some feedback on it. If its crap i'm sure i could move it on a subaru forum easy enough and should lose too much benjamins lol!
Lol love how heated the "other" argument it getting though!