F.A.O EveryBody - Re AKKI's AUTO's

[munday]

Thats very narrow minded to be honest. If Dylan came to me and said 'Christy I am revoking your Super Moderator status to a normal member and I was advised there are valid reasons behind this' then yes I would believe him and take it on the chin.

And if I went to work (My only source of income) and they said your fired, yes again I would take it on the chin because I would already know in my head what I have done wrong.

Christy

Sorry but what?

I'm not going to get involved in this as i have never traded with the man in question, but your statement is ridiculous!

Who in their right mind would just say oh your firing me? Okay see ya later... If anyone did that they must have some sort of clinical disorder!

Maybe i will get slightly involved actually...i think its in the interest of everybody to simply PM him to say 'Somone bought a car off you, it blew up and you refused to have anything to do with it' the end.

No offence to anybody on here...unless somone actually got fired and never even got told/bothered to ask why...then again they are unlikely to be able to cobble together a reply...or even use a computer for that matter :homer:

 

[cameroon95]

To be honest I did think the religious post was pretty odd after all this shit going on.

 

[Sharagath]

a little opinion from my side as a complete stager to this "issue",
i would not put some hate to anybody or judge some one.

if a account is banned/block/moved or a other action by a moderator or admin there should be more than a massage "you are .... " there should be an explanation why, not only because "we decide so". there should be noticed a valid reason.

it is not that i what to know why and how, but i think he urns a smal PM or email with why.

 

[Elaine]

Also comments like Elaine made regarding me being fully aware of the issues people have had with another trader we just took on. I am aware of an issue ELAINE had which she had no evidence to back up and which was handled as well as possible - given that the trader in question is awaiting the arrival of parts from Japan. This new trader has been taken on for a months trial and if they are not up to the job will promptly be gone.

Exactly how did I have no evidence to back it up???

Also you’re telling me that you think it’s excitable to wait as long as I have for the rest of the parts to show up???

 

[muthaducka]

You would put money on who would win the outcome of the poll though wouldn't you?

That's the point. To us members, paid or not, on the surface, without any proof, a man must be seen as innocent until proven guilty. Yes, proven guilty by the mods, but the shareholders really deserve to know a bit more than he's banned.

Only the brand new traders from a few days ago I would consider to be inactive.



I'm fairly sure Hitler was backed by the majority of Germany. I'm afraid that jury of yours would be more uneducated (on the issue at hand, not in general before anyone takes offence) then unbiased. I have no idea on the reasons but because of that I couldn't give an unbiased decision in a poll and neither could you.

 

[gv1.3]

nope Im not saying thats acceptable at all Elaine what I am saying is that the guys hands are tied as they are all being held up with their contact in Japan - which I am sure they are as frustrated about as you are.

As for the evidence... what I meant by that was that they were bought via a private sale and not via the forum therefore there was no for sale thread etc so nothing to say "these are in fantastic condition" etc etc. The guys are on one month trial and then will be reviewed by ALL staff.

 

[faisalgtturbo]

If ANY Trader doesn't live up to expectation, flouts the rules, cons people etc, then they will be gone, no matter who they are (including me). That's the whole point... Potential new traders are put to all the moderators for a decision, which is the same process used when it comes to renewal.

so someone like yourself, how do u being a mod aswell go about this issue do u vote

being a mod and a trader i think u have a unfair advantage....

faisal

anyway back to the point...

 

[Phenom]

muthaducka -

I won't be using this forum again and will move straight over to the uk forum.

Back so soon - I'll hang ur coat up for ya................

 

[Elaine]

It’s nice to know your thoughts on that Dylan

 

[gv1.3]

You would put money on who would win the outcome of the poll though wouldn't you?

That's the point. To us members, paid or not, on the surface, without any proof, a man must be seen as innocent until proven guilty. Yes, proven guilty by the mods, but the shareholders really deserve to know a bit more than he's banned.

you have put up some good suggestions mate and I appreciate you taking the time to do so. I think this talk of guilty or not guilty should be kept for the courts.

We are not in a position to assess someones guilt but take all of the information provided to us and decide to renew a traders account or not.

In this case the overall feeling from staff was to not renew based upon the information we have.

All of our staff are from different backgrounds, different locations, different jobs and represent a good cross-section of the members of toyotagtturbo.com and their input is required on all of these decisions as it is a fair way to do things.

To start up a poll works for somethings but how do you start up a poll for a traders renewal without fully informing the members of all the info you have been giving regarding that member?? This means people voting in the poll will not be fully briefed when making their decision so yes you are right.. they probably will vote yes.

We do it as fair as we can do it and in a manner that sees us put the best traders we can on the site for members. I really respect everyone taking the time to post in this thread but I am still 100% behind our decision as I know it was the right thing to do.

 

[Starlet_Sam]

You would put money on who would win the outcome of the poll though wouldn't you?

That's the point. To us members, paid or not, on the surface, without any proof, a man must be seen as innocent until proven guilty. Yes, proven guilty by the mods, but the shareholders really deserve to know a bit more than he's banned.

Yes I would, because it would be biased. It'd be a total sympathy vote.

 

[97'GlanzaVTurbo]

Sorry but what?

I'm not going to get involved in this as i have never traded with the man in question, but your statement is ridiculous!

Who in their right mind would just say oh your firing me? Okay see ya later... If anyone did that they must have some sort of clinical disorder!

Maybe i will get slightly involved actually...i think its in the interest of everybody to simply PM him to say 'Somone bought a car off you, it blew up and you refused to have anything to do with it' the end.

No offence to anybody on here...unless somone actually got fired and never even got told/bothered to ask why...then again they are unlikely to be able to cobble together a reply...or even use a computer for that matter :homer:

My point was if you KNEW why you got fired. Lets say you are in work and you have a good few issues etc with a few different colleagues and you know you are in the wrong, then your contract came up for RENEWAL (As in the company decide if they want you back or not) and you come in the day of your RENEWAL your Company Director takes you to his office and says We have decided to not renew your contract with us and I think you know the reasons why.
So my point is Akki should already know the reasons behind this, and it isnt the petty reason thats going around the site, how ridculious is that.... If Akki doesnt know the reasons or cant think of the reason then thats down to his bad business management.
Christy

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

so someone like yourself, how do u being a mod aswell go about this issue do u vote

being a mod and a trader i think u have a unfair advantage....

faisal

anyway back to the point...

Which is exactly why I had no direct influence in this decision. In general, I stay away from any decisions involving other Car Traders (I don't sell parts anymore, so can comment on them) so that I'm not seen as having any influence or impacting on the competition. This is something I do, and was not requested by the other mods.

That's the benefit of being 'of the older generation'. I can use my well-gained experience...

 

[Si-W]

his trade status has been revoked dont see why everyone is complaining about it the mods would not remove him as a trader without valid reasons and all in all this thread is a waste of time akki will not be given trader status back so all people are doing is going in circles.. i myself am with the mods on this one if they have removed him its for the good of the community.

 

[Elaine]

How can it be fair when one of the mods is the one applying for a trading post??

Correct me if I am wrong Dylan (which I no you will do) but you assured me that mods where not aloud to trade??

 

[Gee]

The point of the thread was not to bash the mods because they cancelled Akki's trading account. I have good faith in them, obviously they have valid reasons.

But again, to not give the trader in question a suitable explanation is not on.

 

[sx_turbo]

going off topic now people, and maybe time to lock the thread?

we have discovered we are going round in circles, valid comments have been made on both sides, and what has happened has happened, cant change it now.

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

How can it be fair when one of the mods is the one applying for a trading post??

Correct me if I am wrong Dylan (which I no you will do) but you assured me that mods where not aloud to trade??

Who are you referring to?

 

[Elaine]

Who are you referring to?

Kon

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

Kon's only just become a Trader, and he deals in parts, not cars...