F.A.O EveryBody - Re AKKI's AUTO's

[glanzanut]

Group hug lol!

This is only a wee kick in the balls Akki, but ur making it worse for yourself.

You went ahead and made this thread and made it clear that youve obviously done something wrong (duh), we dont know what because admin arent bitches and are not telling you because its obvious that you would know who has complained and hate on them.

This is damaging your rep and you dont relize. If i was you id ask to have the thread removed, no ones gonna wanna trade with you if they think the slightest thing is dodgey with you.

You can still sell in classifieds, start your own trading site, still be apart of tggt and im sure youll get new customers threw tggt as people are aloud to talk about trading sites that arent apart of tggt like fensport, nengun, rhdjapan aslong as you keep your rep up on here.

i dont think your in any position to make judgments such as "akki would make hate against the person if they came to him" mate. thats a totally unfair thing to say, and im sure there is no end of people on here including me who would defend him against such a statement. like u say none of us know the circumstances so i think you should reserve yourself from bringing down his character like that.

 

[ryan_v]

its a precaution there taking just incase im not sayin he would. i edited i didnt mean it to sound like i was passing judgment on his charicter.

 

[dave-izzle]

if he was doing a "kitaro" then i could see the reasoning, but to remove his trading status with no warnings? Seems very harsh to me. Not taking sides but surely it's his right as a human being to be given the reasoning to this punishment? if this happened in the real world (i.e the govenrment shut down someones business for no reason)all the newspapers up and down the land would be asking the same questions.

But obviously he's done something severe to deserve it and if the staff wish not to disclose the information due to the discresion of others, then i respect that totally.

 

[squeekyduck]

I wasnt going to comment on this but...............as Dylan said earlier there is a reason. We should leave it at that. It would be far easier as Dylan stated to take the €100 and let akki continue but its not as simple as that. I am sure there is a lot of communication behind the scenes and this is all in our bests interests so i guess we respect mods discissions before things get out of hand.
Maybe if the truth was known it could be resolved but hey thats the way things go, we have to respect the rules.
Life aint fair, I and everyone else know this.

 

[sx_turbo]

i think akki deserves a reason.

when you give akki a reason there is no need to mention names at all.

i personally think that akki did a good trade on here, he was very helpful when i was looking for a new car, and i beleive he was very helpful when kelly's mate bought a duff car from wrc sales and got his money back

i think there are more deserving traders on here that should have had there trading status cancelled.

I dont remember akki ever costing anybody money, and as far as i remember he always sorted out his problems.

akki did lose his temper with a couple of member, but to be fair he was more than justified to do so. There is/was a couple of members that whenever akki tried to sell a car they would pipe up and say dont buy a car from bradford and trying to do his business harm.


come on guy's be fair, give him a small explanation just dont use names.

something along the lines of " We had a few comlaints about the service you provide, and your attitude to some members was sometimes a bit underhand"

Thats all he's asking for.

i 100% support akki on this one.

i understand that the mods obviously have reasons, but i also think akki deserves a reason to.

 

[cameroon95]

The mods have a stance here and have to hold it, I understand that.

But they can't tell him now surely as its gonna be all over the boards due to the exposure its gotten, its like area 51, does it exist? probably, will we ever see it first hand?no

 

[Derek]

With all due respect to the decision made thinks its kind of harsh. Dont know the guy but as a trader all ive ever read on this forum is good things about him and his service, I think he should be given a reason for his trader status being cancelled, as there are two sides to every story it should be explained to him what the complaints were (without mentioning names) so he can get a chance to explain his side of things, and if he messed up put his hands up and admit it. Its like putting some-one on trial and the jury(ie:the mods) only hearing the prosecutors evidence against and not being given a chance to defend himself.

 

[Nwimie]

yawn. the mods have made a decision they arent going to change there mind let it drop.

 

[CTR_Timmy]

yawn. the mods have made a decision they arent going to change there mind let it drop.

I agree with Nwimie the mods have made their decision based upon what is best for the site and people on here. The more people get involved the more this will escalate and get out of hand.

This should be left for mods and Akki to sort out between them and a reason given directly to Akki.

 

[Elaine]

I would have to disagree with the way in which the mods make there decisions on who can and can’t not trade on this site.

There a lot of new arrivals in the trading section one of which I would have serous questions as to how they got there trading licences, bearing in mind the amount of issues members have had with them that Dylan is fully a wear off.

Akki clearly has a lot of support on the site and I think he is a least due an explanations to why. This does not need to be publicly debated its just common courtesy and respect because for some many people to be supporting him he cant be all bad…

Akki I wish you all the best in the futuer

 

[SupaStu]

If this has been agreed by the mods, (that's not just Dylan) then thats final.

Of course they have a reason, but as it is a private matter between them and Akki they are not going to bleat on about it on the forum for everyone to get their 2p'ed one side of the story rant.

I'm sure this decision wasn't a "surprise" or out of the blue, there has obviously been some undercurrent as to the reason but like any business situation discretion is the key.

But good luck to Akki as there has been plenty of positive feedback, maybe things may change in the future...

 

[Gee]

It does not effect me personally if Akki trades on here or not. I never bought parts of him and I am not going to be buying another EP anytime soon, so I am not taking sides here.

I know the mods have their reasons, but I still do not agree that they don't let the trader himself know.

Look at it like this.

You have a trading account on Ebay, which is one of your main sources of income. Ebay decide to cancel your account and you can not trade. They do not give you an explanation. Would you find that acceptable?

Anyone that says yes is lying.

It's OK saying 'Yeah start a website', but his main source of goods and cars are EP related. Traders are on this site for a reason, it is the biggest, best resouce and community there is for EP's. If you are selling EP's or parts for them, you would be stupid not to want to be a trader here.

I dare even say mosts traders on here probably get the majority of business generated through this forum?

I know the mods are protecting the community, but they should let the trader know. Like I said above, if it happened to you, would you just 'take it on the chin'?

Posting in threads like this might get me victimised, it has happened before and there are certain 'groups' that do it, but I just don't agree with what has happend here.

I agree if the mods have their valid enough reasons they should cancel a traders account and they are thinking of 'us', the community. But again, to not give the trader an explanation..I can't agree with that.

 

[Idrees]

Idress I dont remember you posting so negatively about the site when we were running the project of the year etc... your opinion of the site changes day to day it seems.

Do I post my opinion of the site everyday? No. I hardly do as I don't wanna cause an issue, but now the book is open why not write in it.

When I first joined up this was a really good place to be, but now it's more like a controlled forum, like a junior school! However I do highly respect SOME of the admins and love the majority of members on here.

 

[Phil]

When I first joined up this was a really good place to be, but now it's more like a controlled forum, like a junior school! However I do highly respect SOME of the admins and love the majority of members on here.

this may be just a change in how the forum appears to you.

 

[CTR_Timmy]

We seem to be going off the subject altogether now.

 

[GTdan]

from a new member's point of view, this is hardly welcoming, 2 ways of looking at this:

Admin not choosing to renew a traders account without a reason...possible "power trip"? Forum being run like the government...nuff said on that.

Traders selling items not as described or problems after the deal has gone through, however from what ive read, any problems (which when selling cars, you will get one or 2 problems), and again thsi seem to have been rectified mutually between trader and buyer. If people have complained about his services directly to admin, and not to trader, how do they expect the problem to be fixed....in theory you would go back to the trader who sold you the item first of all before going to trading standard aka mods. The only explanation for this is if akki has chosen not to respond to the buyer or tell them to politely go away.

I understand that people do not want to be named, however, if they expect their problems to be resolved, surely akki not being allowed to renew tradership isnt going to help this matter.

Also when was the decision for akki not being allowed to renew decided, think we are presuming that it was when it was expited, however this could of happened 6 months ago, and chose not to ban him but chose not to renew.

Going back to my first point of being a newbie, chosing not to let a trader renew membership without giving him a valid reason - you could always u2u the reasons to him without naming names - that way its stays private, doesnt bode to well for new members, certainly raised doubts in my head about how forum is run etc (just my opinion though).

 

[Jay]

A harsh decision Akki and not one that was taken lightly, I assure you.

Our decision to decline your renewal rested on a number of things which as Dylan already has stated cannot be discussed openly without forsaking our confidential trust.

I'm sorry to say it but you gotta roll with the punches mate, there is a ton of potential in your local area and I am sure you will perservere give the amount of support evident. Ebay, gumtree and other commercial advertising sites reach a larger audience than TGTT so there are other avenues to explore.

Everyone else is just going to have to trust us, we make the decisions and bear the brunt.

Regards,

Jay

 

[GTti]

I have total confidence in Jay, Dylan and various other moderators. This forum has grown significantly in the last year or two, and their on going efforts to improve further are appreciated.

We can be sure this isn't down to just one or two complaints, I'm sure something of a more sinister nature has convinced them of their decision.

Regardless of what this is, this forum is private, this is not eBay. The reasons for withholding is obviously to the benefit of those involved.

For those that wish to still trade with Akki, then there is nothing restricting you in doing so.

 

[sx_turbo]

i agree with gtti and jay.

infact i think jay even gave the reason, in a roundabout way.


but still a reason should have been given to akki, it may even have improved him from a business view, so that he can change for the future

 

[Gee]

I have total confidence in Jay, Dylan and various other moderators. This forum has grown significantly in the last year or two, and their on going efforts to improve further are appreciated.

We can be sure this isn't down to just one or two complaints, I'm sure something of a more sinister nature has convinced them of their decision.

Regardless of what this is, this forum is private, this is not eBay. The reasons for withholding is obviously to the benefit of those involved.

For those that wish to still trade with Akki, then there is nothing restricting you in doing so.

I agree with this.

Only point you are missing is that Akki is not even aware why and has not been given a reason.

I trust the mods judgement, but don't agree that Akki has not been told why his trading status has been removed.

Nobody is asking for details, the point of the thread was that Akki wanted an explanation, nobody else.

Anyway, going around in circles here.