venomconcepts
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firstly... that 2012 shit is hype to sell a movie, and an absolutely rubbish movie at that.
I want to really try to pick the positives from this thread and prove a point that I have been trying to make with friends of mine and anyone that will listen for such a long time. If you read this thread from start to finish there is a running theme of dissatisfaction among everyone but also of collective agreement that the country is being run incorrectly and we need a complete overhaul of how we operate, beginning with the government.
A serious issue in Ireland is the inability to openly discuss politics. People generally keep their political views to themselves and often wont even tell you who they voted for, this is not helping our country right now. What we need is open discussion. The discussion in Ireland has shifted from 10 years of conversations about how much house prices were going up to "the recession". That term should be banned! It is like taling about a house on fire whilst standing there looking at it burning to the ground, you dont watch it burn down you tackle the issue and the aftermath might be less bad. The recession is not the problem the fire is the problem and the fire is being fueled by our government and the endemic corruption that has spread through the financial, construction, political and legal sectors of our society - Ireland is rotten to the core.
So you need to start where the problem lies, not try to patch over the issues and hope that somehow they go away, you need to cut out the rot immediately and stop it spreading any further.
Things have gone down so quickly in Ireland that we have not yet realised how bad they are, it is the shock factor, no different than been bitten by a dog and fighting it off only to begin feeling the pain ten or fifteen minutes later having initially believed you might have gotten away without any injury - the dog has bitten us and we will all start to feel the pain soon, some later than others but it is coming.
The biggest problem in Ireland is the absolute non-existence of accountability. Its not even a low level of same it is an absolute non-existence. In earlier posts people have brought up Mary Harney, our aptly nicknamed "Minister for Death". This woman is a complete failure, under her control we have had so many misdiagnoses that have led to deaths of citizens it is sickening. She installed a chap as the head of the HSE. Now when things go wrong our department of health point the finger at the HSE and the HSE points the finger back and on it goes... no person is ever held accountable, the buck does not stop with anyone.
Our Minister for finance who oversaw the economy as it went off the cliff is now the leader of our country, he is directly responsible for our countries finances now and we leave him in power after what he did.
Men who swindled hundreds of millions from our nations banks and put them in to their own bank accounts are walking the streets of Dublin as free as birds, our current minister for finance takes our tax payers money and uses it to pay back the millions these crooks have stolen.
In any country around the world those people who fail so badly at their jobs, recklessly endanger lives and steal from hard working people are dealt with by the law. In Ireland they are not dealt with by anyone because the fact of the matter is they control the law, they are essentially above the law, this is a sad fact but it is true.
History has shown us that there is only one single thing that can change a countries direction - its people. Irish people are currently not hurting enough to force them to stand up and do something about how their country has been hijacked. Unfortunately by the time they are hurting enough it will most probably be too late to do anything.
So to prove my point -
When people begin talking openly, like they have been in this thread, there is a passion displayed and a like minded feeling. We all actually do know there is a problem and we all know what that problem is. We are all prepared to discuss the problem and when we do so we inspire feelings of patriotism which extends across different political views and geographic locations, we are all just citizens that are concerned about our country. We no longer feel isolated, like we are the only ones who care and one person cannot make a difference. I bet we could get at least 3 or 4 people from this thread in to Dublin at government buildings to protest - I would go.
Now here is my point - if every person here took the time to discuss the current situation with their friends, family and anyone that will listen and when the next organised march is on demanded that their girlfriends, friends, family etc all go with them, the turn out could be BIG. If you speak to your friends and try get them to be as passionate about being a part of the solution as you are and they do the same to their friends momentum begins to gather and things snowball. As unlikely as this seems it can be done...people need to speak openly about politics and the challenges that face our country. You dont have to know anything about politics all you have to know is that you do not like what is going on - people need to take back their country and stop assuming someone else will do it, it is on every individual to do it themselves.
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