Paseo HG with only 0.5mm?

E10-2001-CT9

E10-2001-CT9

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CR 8,3:1 with Paseo HG MLS 0.5mm?

heard there are paseos with an 0,5mm metal Headgasket ? this should be in the second generetion of 5efe? can anyone tell me an partnumber? can i fit 5efe HG at an 4efte engine?

thx,for help
 
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weeJohn

weeJohn

Lifer
Part 11115‑11071 (GASKET, CYLINDER HEAD) was found on the following models:

Market Date range Model Frames/Options Found in diagram
Japan 12/1989-12/1995 TOYOTA STARLET EP8*,NP80 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 01/1996-06/1999 TOYOTA STARLET EP9*,NP90 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Europe 01/1996-06/1999 TOYOTA STARLET EP91 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 03/1990-11/1995 TOYOTA SERA EXY10 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 09/1994-06/1999 TOYOTA CORSA, TERCEL EL5*,NL50 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 09/1994-06/1999 TOYOTA COROLLA 2 EL5*,NL50 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 08/1995-06/1999 TOYOTA CYNOS EL5* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Europe 08/1995-06/1999 TOYOTA PASEO EL54 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 05/1997-03/2003 TOYOTA RAUM EXZ10,15 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 06/1991-05/2002 TOYOTA COROLLA AE10*,CE10*,EE10* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 05/1995-07/2000 TOYOTA COROLLA AE11*,CE11*,EE111 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Europe 05/1992-03/1997 TOYOTA COROLLA AE10*,CE100,EE10* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Europe 05/1997-08/2001 TOYOTA COROLLA AE11*,CDE110,CE110,EE11*,WZE110,ZZE11* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 06/1991-05/2002 TOYOTA SPRINTER AE10*,CE10*,EE10* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 05/1995-07/2000 TOYOTA SPRINTER AE11*,CE11*,EE111 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Europe 05/1992-03/1997 TOYOTA COROLLA AE10*,CE100,EE10* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Europe 05/1997-10/2001 TOYOTA COROLLA AE111,CDE110,CE110,EE111,WZE110,ZZE11* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD
Japan 11/1992-05/2002 TOYOTA CALDINA AT191,CT19*,ET196,ST19* 11-04: CYLINDER HEAD

There seems to be only one mate, TRD did do a 0.6mm gasket for the 4/5E engines but.
 
weeJohn

weeJohn

Lifer
A few engines here have been built with 10cc dished pistons and a 0.6mm gasket, with the right mapping then it should be ok without a massive turbo.
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
it wouls also be ok with a big turbo,

10cc dish and the stock 1.2mm headgasket gives compression ratios close to 7.5:1 maybe a tad less maybe a tad more, and to be frank thats far to low unless you planning on running over 2 bar boost.
 
spuddy

spuddy

Ulster Area Rep.
sx_turbo said:
it wouls also be ok with a big turbo,

10cc dish and the stock 1.2mm headgasket gives compression ratios close to 7.5:1 maybe a tad less maybe a tad more, and to be frank thats far to low unless you planning on running over 2 bar boost.
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Fellas are running unnecessarily low compression ratios, standard compression(4efte) is fine, at least on 97ron fuel or better.
 
HYBRID

HYBRID

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spuddy said:
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Fellas are running unnecessarily low compression ratios, standard compression(4efte) is fine, at least on 97ron fuel or better.
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i take it youve never seen a broken main-cap right?

kon
 
spuddy

spuddy

Ulster Area Rep.
HYBRID said:
i take it youve never seen a broken main-cap right?

kon
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Not personally which is good considering the torque levels involved.

Only ones I heard of breaking was a car running nitrous with relativly low power/torque and put it down to the lean hit the engine was recieving before the fuel got through the nitrous kit lines, mega det.

There was a fella on here running a ratio of 6.5!!!! far far too low.
 
HYBRID

HYBRID

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spuddy said:
Not personally which is good considering the torque levels involved.

Only ones I heard of breaking was a car running nitrous with relativly low power/torque and put it down to the lean hit the engine was recieving before the fuel got through the nitrous kit lines, mega det.

There was a fella on here running a ratio of 6.5!!!! far far too low.
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yeah 6.5 is waaay to low... locally (on well tuned engines not botched jobs).. with 4e owners running cr's close to stock or over stock and running more than 28psi of boost.. the main caps have called it a day ... sometimes the case is that all 5 crack.. this was not due to detonation.. its just a case of the oem maincaps just being able to take a certain amount of stress and thats it lol..

the lowest cr i would ever suggest on a 4e to run 30psi + plus boost without having many problems is a cr of about 7.2 ~ 7.4 cr :)


kon
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
main caps dont just break, they have no force pushing the main caps, the only thing that would cause the main caps to break is the crank whipping due to poor balancing or pre ignition that forces the crank in the wrong direction.
 
Jay

Jay

Admin
Just on the off chance.

I've to sort my headgasket on my daily auto GT shortly and have one of these really thin metal OEM 5E gaskets spare. Anyone using one on a stock 4EFTE?

Turbo is Hybrid Tong running .9bar at the minute. It would save me splashing out on a stock 4EFTE version and should offer a better response than the stock item I'm guessing..

Cheers,

Jay
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
should be fine jay.

just make sure the pistons dont hit the head, and the valves dont hit the pistons.

on forged pistons its ok because the valve pockets are a lot larger
 
Jay

Jay

Admin
Aye, that was my big worry - already had to deal with a bent valve this year elsewhere lol.

May as well give it a shot then!

Cheers for the input mate.
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
stick the head on without the gasket, and rotate the valves with the pistons in tdc, just to make sure.

you should ideally need a 1mm gap between valve and piston (with the gasket on)

i reckon it will be fine
 
Jay

Jay

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I've to MOT prep my trackcar, get it road legal and then once I have that up and rolling I can take the auto off the road. Will update this thread once I've had a bit of feedback to share. Don't know if it's a good sign but Phil was here yesterday and he was thinking good thoughts about it as an option.
 
Phil

Phil

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Jay said:
Don't know if it's a good sign but Phil was here yesterday and he was thinking good thoughts about it as an option.
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i bet you were certain it was a bad sign lol

i found my way back to this thread via a google search for a forementioned part number. nuff said.

Phil
 
rage

rage

Lifer
this gasket seems quite cheap and sounds ideal for my forged 5e build.
there were some torque specs for installing the gasket but i'm not 100% sure i'm getting it :)

Anzugsverfahren:
2.5Kpm, 5Kpm, -90º+5Kpm, 90º
Nachziehen: Nein

1 kpm = 0.98nm so that's easy
so turque it down with 2.5nm (that's really low...)
then go for 5nm
after that turn it 90 degrees to loosen it up again.
then go to 5nm and 90 degrees to tighten it down?
 
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