Terrorist attacks in Mumbai

[faisalgtturbo]

haters will always hate!!!
but this shit isnt gonna stop


1) u can tell things about people on this site
your name etc gives away alot..

2) 'if u dont like it go home'

u tell where do i go born raised here in bradford, i like nothing more than a good old fish and chips and making my starlet unique/fast

tell where do i go/ fit in!!!


first ur saying why are the muslims quiet then when they speak ur not willing to hear anything
what the point!!!!


faisal

 

[faisalgtturbo]

well I would appreciate this being kept on topic. I think one of the main issues is that people are still living in the past. Sure people used to burn people as they were thought to be witches etc... in the civilised world that happened a long time ago.. I am talking about the civilized world now not the time of the crusades.

The issue at hand here is the Mumbai murders. And Faisal I aint trying to say I know who did it I am working off media reports just like everyone else... but let me guess the entire media is out to get muslims also.

u dont how much of this is true (obviously in my view)

also does depend on papers read by people... (who controls what) = gov

 

[gv1.3]

in the if you dont like it go home bit I merely meant that if you dont like somewhere and you feel somewhere else is more like where you would like to live then go there. Like if a chinese dude didnt like living in Ireland because it was not chinese enough then there is a good solution.. go to China. Similarly if I am in America and I dont like it and think Ireland is more in line with my beliefs and customs then I should go there.

I think a huge issue is that a lot of people go to countries and try turn the country into what they want it to be and that never works.

Saying the government controls the media is a very strong statement... sure some media organizations are influenced by or lean towards certain parties in government but I think its a bit of a cop out to say that all media is controlled by the government because that immediately makes anything reported in the media invalid and the main difference between 2008 and hundreds of years ago is that we get instant access to issues happening around the globe rather than hearing re-hashed versions that suit the person who is telling them.

 

[Phil]

haters will always hate!!!
but this shit isnt gonna stop
your religion teaches hate to its masses. and the poo will stop one day.

1) u can tell things about people on this site
your name etc gives away alot..

agreed in some cases though ep82gtstarlethead doesnt give away much you only give up what info you want

2) 'if u dont like it go home'

u tell where do i go born raised here in bradford, i like nothing more than a good old fish and chips and making my starlet unique/fast

tell where do i go/ fit in!!!

well we've already said that its too late to sort the problem so we dont have an answer we were merely agreeing with the idealist approach of robin williams speech, i.e. you want the west to stop policing the globe then get out of our countries stop EVER putting western people in a position were they will be killed just for being something they dont believe in and force anyo immigrant to return to their families former country. would it work>? maybe will it happen not a hope.


first ur saying why are the muslims quiet then when they speak ur not willing to hear anything

but i did say that you would be delighted to argue? did i not? and we are hearing and reading everything but your.................

what the point!!!!
................point.

faisal

and yes im sure your not sweaty faisel lol

Phil

 

[faisalgtturbo]

i know m8 i was saying where do i fit in..

dont worry no offence was intended... to u



faisal

 

[Phil]

yup dylan, we have the internet now, the media is nationalised at all anymore, you can read it all from any angle you wish.

Phil

 

[faisalgtturbo]

this is what i mean why cant we all just get along ...


i have the energy to do this or argue phil

all i want is for some people to look at this from a muslim perspective

dont just jump on the band wagon

information is out there u have a choice...

do some research bring valuble info back

faisal

i not allowed to have the last word...
so phil u win my dukes are down

 

[Phil]

i know m8 i was saying where do i fit in..

dont worry no offence was intended... to u



faisal

i dont know dude, are you happy here? do you agree that destroying or overcoming the infidel is part of your religion/? where are your family orginally from? you have to work out where you fit in on your own.

these questions have answers, if certain of them are yes then the vast majority of the uk would prefer if you lived outside it!

if your religion says that your living behind enemy lines then maybe thats why some people dont feel welcome? but far worse others feel threatened.

Phil

 

[gv1.3]

ah Faisal stop with the last word bit man... you usually try that with me now its with Phil.. its not about having the last word its about being able to speak openly on a public forum.

I suppose Id like to see muslim leaders come out and condemn people who do this stuff in the name of islam ... they appear to be able to voice their concerns when a cartoon depicting their main prophet is published in a magazine. Which is more important a cartoon or people being murdered?!

 

[faisalgtturbo]

i can safely say some of the
muslim religion is being tried out by the uk gov

whatch how bans on booz and fags come in
(some happening already)
also look at how many pubs closing etc..


sorry if its of topic i just had to say this

what u will witness is a switch people, people like me who are
born muslims will become westernised other people white/black etc
will lead the way forward.... in islam (this is years away but there is evidence of
it happening now)
faisal

 

[faisalgtturbo]

ah Faisal stop with the last word bit man... you usually try that with me now its with Phil.. its not about having the last word its about being able to speak openly on a public forum.

I suppose Id like to see muslim leaders come out and condemn people who do this stuff in the name of islam ... they appear to be able to voice their concerns when a cartoon depicting their main prophet is published in a magazine. Which is more important a cartoon or people being murdered?!

sorry dylan i was being funny again
will stop now...

 

[Phil]

i not allowed to have the last word...
so phil u win my dukes are down

lol

i think the only reason we arent gettin along just at this mo on this forum is because the threads subject certainly is pointed at a islamic mass murder. anyone who comes to this thread and says anything but that its an disaster arent going to receive the warmest of welcomes.

on the grander scale of things i think the real reason is that its not natural for to cultures to come together without great friction especially if one of the cultures or religion at some level is wishing death upon the other.

Phil

 

[gv1.3]

no smoking ban is for general public health. I am not surprised that you feel this is elements of your religion being tried out because that kinda reinforces my thinking that muslims have a superiority complex.

If your thinking is correct though lets wait for the time when the government brings in the cutting off of hands and makes women second class citizens... what a world that would be... deffinatly the way forward.

 

[faisalgtturbo]

I suppose Id like to see muslim leaders come out and condemn people who do this stuff in the name of islam ... they appear to be able to voice their concerns when a cartoon depicting their main prophet is published in a magazine. Which is more important a cartoon or people being murdered?![/QUOTE]



the fact is they wont they are just as daft as the wetern equivlents (spelling)
u see the cartoon thing is a strong belief no one untill there
death is supposed to see the prophets face... ut is can not permitted to imatate it...

thats why they didnt like it

 

[faisalgtturbo]

If your thinking is correct though lets wait for the time when the government brings in the cutting off of hands and makes women second class citizens... what a world that would be... deffinatly the way forward.[/QUOTE]

see women are not classed as second class citzens in Islam this is a common misconception

both man and woman are equal but in respective places
no one is above only God

cutting of the hands is still used in saudia arabia lol

faisal

 

[Phil]

i can safely say some of the
muslim religion is being tried out by the uk gov

whatch how bans on booz and fags come in
(some happening already)
also look at how many pubs closing etc..


sorry if its of topic i just had to say this

what u will witness is a switch people, people like me who are
born muslims will become westernised other people white/black etc
will lead the way forward.... in islam (this is years away but there is evidence of
it happening now)
faisal

LOL

well our law, was originally derived from church law. so the basis of our law was christain.

smoking ban(put forward to reduce cancer)
alcohal ban (asbo's etc general behaviour was getting out of control)

i dont think its a muslim influence at all.
but hey it could well be a muslim influence, muslims are supposed to take over countrys force their sharia law on them so i wouldnt be surprised.

its funny though cause all this talk about haters and crap, if the authorities came to the door of every foreigner in the uk and told them, leave to another country inside a month. it would be the end of the world riots and suicide bombings would rip through the country! but in nigeria at the moment christians are being slaughtered no questions EDIT by muslims.

Phil

 

[faisalgtturbo]

LOL

well our law, was originally derived from church law. so the basis of our law was christain.

smoking ban(put forward to reduce cancer)
alcohal ban (asbo's etc general behaviour was getting out of control)

i dont think its a muslim influence at all.
but hey it could well be a muslim influence, muslims are supposed to take over countrys force their sharia law on them so i wouldnt be surprised.

its funny though cause all this talk about haters and crap, if the authorities came to the door of every foreigner in the uk and told them, leave to another country inside a month. it would be the end of the world riots and suicide bombings would rip through the country! but in nigeria at the moment christians are being slaughtered no questions EDIT by muslims.

Phil

yeah but muslims are being slautered in afganistan and pakistan

i know it isnt right and i hate tha fact that people are dying
sadly waht can we do ...

 

[Phil]

I suppose Id like to see muslim leaders come out and condemn people who do this stuff in the name of islam ... they appear to be able to voice their concerns when a cartoon depicting their main prophet is published in a magazine. Which is more important a cartoon or people being murdered?!

the fact is they wont they are just as daft as the wetern equivlents (spelling)
u see the cartoon thing is a strong belief no one untill there
death is supposed to see the prophets face... ut is can not permitted to imatate it...

thats why they didnt like it[/QUOTE]

the cartoon thing thats not our problem. seriously get over yourselves you have the right to be respected as a person you certainly dont have any right to expect anyone to respect your beliefs in a country that isnt your own.
a westerner would condemn any killing in the name of &&&&? cert.


Phil

 

[faisalgtturbo]

the fact is they wont they are just as daft as the wetern equivlents (spelling)
u see the cartoon thing is a strong belief no one untill there
death is supposed to see the prophets face... ut is can not permitted to imatate it...

thats why they didnt like it

the cartoon thing thats not our problem. seriously get over yourselves you have the right to be respected as a person you certainly dont have any right to expect anyone to respect your beliefs in a country that isnt your own.
a westerner would condemn any killing in the name of &&&&? cert.


Phil[/QUOTE]



that is how u feel or ur view/opinion...

to muslims this was important...

i agree some people will not respect this
and have there will to do what they please

fasial

 

[Phil]

yeah but muslims are being slautered in afganistan and pakistan

i know it isnt right and i hate tha fact that people are dying
sadly waht can we do ...

aw the worlds a mess. we should just bring all the troops home chuck all the muslims out and defend our borders would that make things better? certainly would make things both better and easier for us.

Phil