dark_knight
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@williamcarroll1982: you are right, i suspect it's only the reflet and carat variants that come without this as an option. all glanzas most proli come with the rear strut brace brackets/supports as standard.
What is a p-sports glanza?
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Topher-EP82
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The chaps talking about this car as if its the cheap ass option..
Honda did the same with the EK9 they removed loads of extras and called it the light weight edition.
People always laughed at it..
What they missed was the professional racers... The guys who bought the car's to race.
This is one of many reasons manufacturers make light weight models..
So people can buy them and not have to spend time removed Power steering and ABS and such like.. the EK9 racebase had a further welded chassis to standard also, I can't comment on the glanza have a seam welded chassis though..
another term for it " RACE BASE " as in a Base to start building your race car from, so in actual fact " poverty spec " i believe is the opposite term for it. most of the light weight models were bought by people with Big plans to modify them, its the same throughout the car scene.
just thought i'd share my opinion on this. i think its a very purposeful model tbh.
Honda did the same with the EK9 they removed loads of extras and called it the light weight edition.
People always laughed at it..
What they missed was the professional racers... The guys who bought the car's to race.
This is one of many reasons manufacturers make light weight models..
So people can buy them and not have to spend time removed Power steering and ABS and such like.. the EK9 racebase had a further welded chassis to standard also, I can't comment on the glanza have a seam welded chassis though..
another term for it " RACE BASE " as in a Base to start building your race car from, so in actual fact " poverty spec " i believe is the opposite term for it. most of the light weight models were bought by people with Big plans to modify them, its the same throughout the car scene.
just thought i'd share my opinion on this. i think its a very purposeful model tbh.
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Ted
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this is the car equivalent of chinese whispers. few cars brought in with no spec get called poverty spec, then p-spec, then some smart ass calls his car a p-sport to make more money when selling. the only lightweight glanza is a gt!
japanese buyers of new cars buy differently to us- start with basic car and decide which options they want-or not.
japanese buyers of new cars buy differently to us- start with basic car and decide which options they want-or not.
The GT86 and BRZ are a good example of the lightweight less option versions. They sell them with no stereo & speakers, electric mirrors, electric windows, unpainted bumpers, steel wheels. Not as a poverty spec edition, but specifically aimed at motorsports, they know fine that people would rip it all out and change it, so they made a basic version to cut on original costs and be lighter etc straight away.
at the end of the day its purely up to the original buyers, i wouldnt say poverty spec because at the end of the day the original cost will only have been about 1k of difference so its not exactly a bargain compared to the version with everything.
at the end of the day its purely up to the original buyers, i wouldnt say poverty spec because at the end of the day the original cost will only have been about 1k of difference so its not exactly a bargain compared to the version with everything.
The problem is, manufacturers charge more money for less equipment! They cut the costs for themselves but don't pass the cut onto the customer, infact they charge the customer more and increase their profit margin.
Texx
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Being a low volume model variant it would cost more from an assembly line point of view to build a lesser spec model. If for example the production line was setup to assemble 2500 units of one particular model spec and then the line was changed over to assemble a lower volume of say 300 units of a lesser model spec, it would cost less to assemble the higher spec model than it would to assemble the lesser spec model. Sometime less does cost more.
Toyota still rip new cars apart at Portbury, though not so much as they used to years ago. Because the UK genpo import a relatively low volume of vehicles into the country it's often more cost effective to take the base model off the end of the production line, ship it to the UK and then have the car torn apart and the extra equipment added at the enhancement centre, rather than have the relatively small number of vehicles built to spec on the production line. This could be anything from alarm systems, radio/sat nav, parking sensors, leather interior, air conditioning etc... Every EP3 Civic Type R left the factory at Swindon with no air conditioning, radio or door speakers, the cars were torn apart and the extras fitted at the distribution centre in Avonmouth.
The Japanese don't take this approach, they frown at the thought of a new car being unnecessarily disassembled before reaching the end user. In Japan a car destined for the Japanese market would be built to spec on the production line, so again if it's a low volume model variant it would cost more to assemble.
Toyota still rip new cars apart at Portbury, though not so much as they used to years ago. Because the UK genpo import a relatively low volume of vehicles into the country it's often more cost effective to take the base model off the end of the production line, ship it to the UK and then have the car torn apart and the extra equipment added at the enhancement centre, rather than have the relatively small number of vehicles built to spec on the production line. This could be anything from alarm systems, radio/sat nav, parking sensors, leather interior, air conditioning etc... Every EP3 Civic Type R left the factory at Swindon with no air conditioning, radio or door speakers, the cars were torn apart and the extras fitted at the distribution centre in Avonmouth.
The Japanese don't take this approach, they frown at the thought of a new car being unnecessarily disassembled before reaching the end user. In Japan a car destined for the Japanese market would be built to spec on the production line, so again if it's a low volume model variant it would cost more to assemble.
dark_knight
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i've got one and have transformed it to be the envy of many so i don't really mind what the rest of the automotive community say. your car. your rules. your love..! 
Jay
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Point one : When ordering a Glanza V from the factory you got the option of ticking the electric pack option which gave you electric windows, central locking and electrically adjustable door mirrors. Very few japanese buyers opted for the entry level manual windows hence the rarity of them nowadays.
Point two : The P-Sport V is no myth.
Wipeclean interior (includes plain grey doorcards)
No dashclock
High boost only
These are not weightsaving items so I don't think that was the approach at all. To me it's a base-spec car with an easily bin-able interior and no pointless low boost setting. Much easier to modify for those with the inclination.
I've seen enough of them to know that it's a model of V supplied from Toyota themselves. They also had the same electric pack option which is why you see the occassional P-Sport with power windows. Basically it's the luck of the draw on how the car was specced at time of ordering.
The EP91 P-Sport is to the V what the EP71 Turbo-R is to the Turbo S.
No?
Point two : The P-Sport V is no myth.
Wipeclean interior (includes plain grey doorcards)
No dashclock
High boost only
These are not weightsaving items so I don't think that was the approach at all. To me it's a base-spec car with an easily bin-able interior and no pointless low boost setting. Much easier to modify for those with the inclination.
I've seen enough of them to know that it's a model of V supplied from Toyota themselves. They also had the same electric pack option which is why you see the occassional P-Sport with power windows. Basically it's the luck of the draw on how the car was specced at time of ordering.
The EP91 P-Sport is to the V what the EP71 Turbo-R is to the Turbo S.
No?
Why would you need a better cooling for a snow version? May be better heating??? Also the AC would be no use here!
Jay
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Rumour had it they had a stronger coolant mix (there only is one 'ForLife' coolant from what I'm aware) and a stronger starting circuit (I'm never seen anything in amongst the part numbers to reflect this though).
Certainly the Snow Versions exist (SNOW VERSION sticker on the underside of the bonnet) so my guess is they came with winter tyres and some snow chains. The yellow fogs were standard on the early GT's so I wouldn't count them as part of the snow package.
Jay
Well if it's a snow version designed for low temperatures then it would probably have bigger capacity battery and better coolant, but I doubt they would use standard antifreeze. I've no idea about Japanese or the US makers for Arctic conditions, but the Russians use their own type of antifreeze called TOSOL which is able to withstand -65C and has a blue colour.
I don't see the reason why Toyota would give a tag Snow Version and just put the snow tyres on it, any car can have snow tyres -) It's got to be something else as well -) How about stainless steel exhaust for example? Or double insulation? Or heated seats may be?
weeJohn
Lifer
Thats for the future race cars, there will be quite a few I would imagine.
Johnny_C
Lifer
em yeah,like i said above,lol!
that is the whole point of the gt86,making funs cars and bringing things back to the basics again!
although,this will never happen in ireland going by price lists!
www.glanza.co.uk
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As Jay has already said, they exist. It's easy to get confused over spec levels, as the multitude of options can be a little complex, but having seen a few in the flesh (96 version and 98 version), and also having importing one for SupaStu, they are out there. Call them what you like, I for one know that if I was driving around in one when they came out, I'd be a happy bunny (especially as I'd have saved around 1 million yen over a standard Glanza V).
I've seen Glanza's advertised with 'Leather' seats, and I've seen lightweight versions with ordinary seats. There are always tell-tales if you know what you're looking for...
I've seen Glanza's advertised with 'Leather' seats, and I've seen lightweight versions with ordinary seats. There are always tell-tales if you know what you're looking for...