4efte problem (video inside)

ahmedsalem89

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Which fault codes has the ECU stored?
I did not try to check for fault codes I have always thought that the check light must be on to check for faults,
can i check even if the check engine light is not on (on for a second and then off like in my case?)

you can remove your lambda and it should run fine.
I tried before, unplugged both o2 sensors and kept them in Their place but the problem was still there
 

Texx

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I did not try to check for fault codes I have always thought that the check light must be on to check for faults,
can i check even if the check engine light is not on (on for a second and then off like in my case?)

Every time the check light comes on the ECU stores a code for the malfunction it has detected (with the exception of a couple of scenarios). If your hitting fuel cut then the ECU will store code 34. Run a diagnostic check and see which codes have been stored, then reset the ECU (by pulling the EFI fuse or disconnecting the battery for more than 30 seconds), drive the car again until the fault reoccurs and then recheck for codes to confirm that the stored codes are relevant to the issue your experiencing.

If your getting code 34 then my advise is to keep the engine off boost and get a boost gauge installed ASAP.
 

ahmedsalem89

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Every time the check light comes on the ECU stores a code for the malfunction it has detected (with the exception of a couple of scenarios). If your hitting fuel cut then the ECU will store code 34. Run a diagnostic check and see which codes have been stored, then reset the ECU (by pulling the EFI fuse or disconnecting the battery for more than 30 seconds), drive the car again until the fault reoccurs and then recheck for codes to confirm that the stored codes are relevant to the issue your experiencing.

If your getting code 34 then my advise is to keep the engine off boost and get a boost gauge installed ASAP.

Thanks for the info man, do u have a link on how to run a diag.?
 

ahmedsalem89

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Did a diag. using a device that plugs into the diag. check connector and it showed no codes or faults and both sensors working I took a glimpse at the screen it said o2 signal lean twice
took the injectors out and cleaned them and checked fuel pressure but the problem is still there
no I'm starting to susbect the distributor cap as had one of the 5 connectors broken and fixed before
could it be the reason?
 

ahmedsalem89

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Distributor cap is working fine despite the previously glued crack
I was suspecting the ECU now so I got another one from a friend, have been driving for a day and it actually drives fine, will have to do more testing just to make sure it was the reason
 

corofin12345

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Did a diag. using a device that plugs into the diag. check connector and it showed no codes or faults and both sensors working I took a glimpse at the screen it said o2 signal lean twice
took the injectors out and cleaned them and checked fuel pressure but the problem is still there
no I'm starting to susbect the distributor cap as had one of the 5 connectors broken and fixed before
could it be the reason?

finding it hard to believe no codes were stored... you using a maf sensor or map sensor??

try a flash code test this time using a piece of wire or paper clip and follow the instructions texx posted in the last page
 
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ahmedsalem89

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finding it hard to believe no codes were stored... you using a maf sensor or map sensor??

try a flash code test this time using a piece of wire or paper clip and follow the instructions texx posted in the last page

I'll try that but right now I doubt it'll show any codes as since I replaced the ECU the car is running fine
and I'm using a map sensor
 

corofin12345

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sry but can u please explain ?

once the EML "engine management light" comes on, a code is automatically stored into the ECU..... however, these codes will erase once the ECU is disconnected or the battery is disconnected for a period of time...... ive rerely seen an actual fault with a 4EFTE ECU but at that, if there was a problem with the ECU the EML would stay on all the time.... to me it looks like the ECU was picking up a code from a sensor.. if the EML comes on again with the new ECU, do a flash code diagnostic via the diagnosis port.... TE1 & E1
 

ahmedsalem89

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once the EML "engine management light" comes on, a code is automatically stored into the ECU..... however, these codes will erase once the ECU is disconnected or the battery is disconnected for a period of time...... ive rerely seen an actual fault with a 4EFTE ECU but at that, if there was a problem with the ECU the EML would stay on all the time.... to me it looks like the ECU was picking up a code from a sensor.. if the EML comes on again with the new ECU, do a flash code diagnostic via the diagnosis port.... TE1 & E1

I get it now thanx a lot, so if it's a sensor problem it'll rise again on the new ECU. but what makes me 90% sure it was a ECU problem is that when I first got the engine it used to shut down a lot and when I inspected it, I found that the ECU cover plate was slightly damaged causing it to overheat and shut the engine off and to fix that issue I just unscrewed the plate and unbend the bend it had and screwed it again on. so I suspect that the damage was more than just that.
anyway I drove the car yesterday again for 6 hours in a row on different circumstances just to make sure and until now it's fine. I pray that the problem has ended and it'll never rise again so I can concentrate and work more on the car itself
 

ahmedsalem89

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Took the car on the highway after I got a boost gauge and replaced the ECU and now I'm experiencing something different the engine cuts steady at around 0.7~0.8 par on the gauge I believe it is boost cut as it was at the same amount of boost at the second, third and fourth gear until i upshift. The engine is stock how come I'm reaching boost cut?, boost creep maybe??
Sry for all these questions but u guys are really helpful
 

corofin12345

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Took the car on the highway after I got a boost gauge and replaced the ECU and now I'm experiencing something different the engine cuts steady at around 0.7~0.8 par on the gauge I believe it is boost cut as it was at the same amount of boost at the second, third and fourth gear until i upshift. The engine is stock how come I'm reaching boost cut?, boost creep maybe??
Sry for all these questions but u guys are really helpful

fuel cut... if everything is stock it should be around .65 of a bar of boost.. seeing that its boosting .7 to .8, theres something up... could possibly be a badly cracked wastegate..... you could try using a more restrictive filter to see if it helps
 

ahmedsalem89

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fuel cut... if everything is stock it should be around .65 of a bar of boost.. seeing that its boosting .7 to .8, theres something up... could possibly be a badly cracked wastegate..... you could try using a more restrictive filter to see if it helps

yeah everything is stock except for the air intake I use a dual inlet Simota cone and a short pipe, I inspected the wastegate a while ago and it was fine.
but just to make Sure, reasons for reaching boost cut are only air filters or wastegate malfunctions?
would a tune fix anything?
 

corofin12345

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thanks man I'm planning on a Mushroom one soon, I just though a tune my raise the fuel cut limit so it won't cut as soon.

fuel cut is built into the stock ECU mate.. its @ .9 of a bar of boost but the EML will come on shortly after .8 to tell you your getting close to fuel cut... the only way to get around fuel cut is to get different management or upgrade the fueling of the engine with a FPR and FCD
 

ahmedsalem89

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fuel cut is built into the stock ECU mate.. its @ .9 of a bar of boost but the EML will come on shortly after .8 to tell you your getting close to fuel cut... the only way to get around fuel cut is to get different management or upgrade the fueling of the engine with a FPR and FCD

yeah that's what happened to me the check engine light came on then it started cutting steady, anyway man thanks for the great info. one last thing, would it hurt the engine if I continue like this hitting fuel cut every once in a while?
 
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