4EFTE Vs B16A2
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dantheman
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StarbowBoi
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Rory- whats ur bros crx spec?
glanza v- very interested in the ek9 build, release me the spec list also working with a b16a to get it into b16b form what mods are necessary?
glanza v- very interested in the ek9 build, release me the spec list also working with a b16a to get it into b16b form what mods are necessary?
dan_ep82
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ive had both as i used to own a civic jordan, and i must admit the b16a2 is a bullet proof engine but is far more expensive to get extra power out of it, were as the 4e-fte is much easier obviously as you only have to turn the boost up and sort the fuel and ignition out to gain a fair few horses! i got my civic j to 185bhp and it easily cost me £2500! also the 4e-fte in my opinion is a much more fun engine as u get all the diff noises were as the v-tec kicking in sounds awesome at first but soon gets boaring!
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StarbowBoi
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ummmm... what i would like to know is how much power an n/a car gains with exhaust/filter in comparison to turbo?
glanzav99- release the ek spec list
dantheman- would like to experience a honda turbo, seems quite straighforward build to but will it be dissapointing at low boost?
any rapid honda owners contact me.
glanzav99- release the ek spec list
dantheman- would like to experience a honda turbo, seems quite straighforward build to but will it be dissapointing at low boost?
any rapid honda owners contact me.
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Phil
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exactly with the 4efte you can hear the engine evolving. People take different routes to extracting more power from the lump, whether it is the late punch and pull of a big turbo or the rush of torque with the quick spooling ct9. either way no two sound the same.
the b16/vtec's all sound the same (I will stand by this generalisation lol) even with different exhausts, air filters etc they sound the same. fair enough turbo it without cutting corners and your on an equal playing field but with more cubic capacity = you win. but bar turbing it, it will sound something the same, very annonying
the b16/vtec's all sound the same (I will stand by this generalisation lol) even with different exhausts, air filters etc they sound the same. fair enough turbo it without cutting corners and your on an equal playing field but with more cubic capacity = you win. but bar turbing it, it will sound something the same, very annonying
pc18
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My crx sounded mental when vtec engaged. 2nd grear was so much fun, just gently put you foot down then as soon as it got to 5500 it was so loud and just took off. I easily had 140-145 on the clock and it was still pulling strong but a bit scary tho. i think 150 on the clock would be its limit pretty much, i wont know what the exact speed that would be though. i remember the video of billb at ten of the best doing a top speed run in his Sir (has different gear ratios to a uk vt) i will try and find it.
StarbowBoi
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yes, i wonder for example how much extra power an apexi n1 would make on a b16 as opposed to a 4efte?
pointless trying to build a type r engine/car mate,as its much much different than the vti/sir/sir2,the ek9 suspension is totally uprated,chassis is seem welded for ridigidy(spelling
)lighter shell,thinner glass,no sound deadning etc etc.....the b16b is basically a de-stroked version of the teg r engine,the b16b actually has a more agressive cam than the teg r engin hence why teg owners are keen to use a civic type r head on their b18c....
this is my final setup,should be complete very soon
Apexi power fc & Commander vtec @ 5500-9500RPM
TODA spec B camshafts,valvesprings,sleeves retainers....
TODA adjustable camgears
BUDDYCLUB head gasket
Billion racing cold air feed
ARP head bolts
Skunk2 pro series intake mani
SPOON throttlebody
J;s Racing carbonfibre intake
HONDA timing belt (just done on 54k kms last week) 33k genuine miles
HONDA distributer (just done on 54k kms last week)
5zigen Pro racer 4-2-1 manifold
5zigen decat pipe
5zigen Pro racer catback
Tein type flex coilovers
Cusco front strut brace
Dc sports rear brace
Cusco lower tie bar
Cusco engine mounts
J's Racing c pillar brace
Exedy stage 2 clutch and lightened flywheel
semi sequential gearbox
4.785 final drive
Skunk2 quickshifter
0.10mm head port and polish
J's racing sump baffle
Cusco rad cap
HKS oil cooler + relocation kit
Mugen fan switch
J's racing thermostat
Carbing cooling plate
Spoon radiator stay
Stripped rear
im sure i forgot a few mods
dunno what bhp this will make mate:homer: with a stroker kit it will make about 260bhp+ thats some power for a n/a!!
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StarbowBoi
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the only thing that can decide this is a race (on private roads of course).
pc18
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http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/westcoastbean/?action=view¤t=Top_Speed2.flv
There you go, that was when the car was pretty standard. i think i remember him telling me that he actually beat this on his next attempt as he was having a problem on the first day. it sounds great right at the end!
There you go, that was when the car was pretty standard. i think i remember him telling me that he actually beat this on his next attempt as he was having a problem on the first day. it sounds great right at the end!
StarbowBoi
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sounds cool, loving the honda exhaust note...
Gee
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The B16 is the superior engine of the 2.
For real world guys like us, the 4EFTE is obviously easier and cheaper to tune and get good power gains, this is due to it being turbo charged of course.
The yanks obviously spend a lot of time on money on the B16 engines and they must get such low QTR miles due to the displacement? 4EFTE is a 1.3 after all.
Strap a turbo on a B16 and you will obviously get big power gaines.
For real world guys like us, the 4EFTE is obviously easier and cheaper to tune and get good power gains, this is due to it being turbo charged of course.
The yanks obviously spend a lot of time on money on the B16 engines and they must get such low QTR miles due to the displacement? 4EFTE is a 1.3 after all.
Strap a turbo on a B16 and you will obviously get big power gaines.
pc18
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could listen to that all day lol:rockon:
With that setup on a b16 you might see 200bhp. You've basically got cams, able to rev higher, free flowing exhaust and intake. Defin not worth the money imo. You could spend that in much better areas than a new sump, oil cooler and rad cap that you dont need!
Just stick a b20 bottom end with your standard b16 head and that would be sooo much better. More torque, near 200bhp and will save you a hell of a lot of money.
But prove me wrong
Just stick a b20 bottom end with your standard b16 head and that would be sooo much better. More torque, near 200bhp and will save you a hell of a lot of money.
But prove me wrong