At my wits end

sx_turbo

Lifer
is people sure the rpm signals come from the coil?

i thought the rpm signals came from the distributor?

i maybe wrong though.

also what is fault code 14?
 

Guye

Lifer
is people sure the rpm signals come from the coil?

i thought the rpm signals came from the distributor?

i maybe wrong though.

also what is fault code 14?
Rpm signal from the distributor...the plot thickens. I also "borrowed" a working distributor and swapped with mine, it gave the same results as mine. I think I need to research the tach issue and see what I can come up with. There must be info on where the signal comes from, the voltage etc. I can then use a multimeter and check the wires and see what's going on.
 

Dave.

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I see your point...how do I test the theory though. Any ideas?

Would be fairly easy - if you're speed truely hasn't changed (test it like i said earlier - alongside another car at any speed you mentioned

1st gear to 7200rpm gave 60-65kph, 2nd gear gave 110kph at the the same rpm.

If the car you're beside says the same speed (if you can't get a GPS that is) then you know its the tacho :) - you couldn't possibly get the same speeds with the same gearbox at less rpm :)

Dave
 

Dan3SGTE

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When wiring up an aftermarket Tacho you have to break into the wires from the coil to give the reading..... hence the Signals being from the coil :)
 

Guye

Lifer
Thanks for all the replys guys. I have a couple other things to try now. I'll update this thread with any results, good or bad. Cheers.
 

Guye

Lifer
Update: I am due to return the car to the mechanic in a few hours so he can perform some multimeter tests. Hopefully he may be able to find out if the tach signal is faulty or if I do have an ignition problem. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 

starbogt

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might sound a little silly but have you checked the timing wasn't knocked out slightly cos mine was out by 8degrees and it wouldn't rev above 6000rpm on the rollers and I still have a hesitation under 3k I think mine is a tooth out to be honest.
 

Luke.R

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I still can't understand why he took the engine out to do the work :confused:

I did a clutch on my friends GT and didn't even need to remove the drive shafts from the box, it all dropped out easy.

the bloke sounds like a pleb and I wouldn't go near him again to be honest.
 

Guye

Lifer
might sound a little silly but have you checked the timing wasn't knocked out slightly cos mine was out by 8degrees and it wouldn't rev above 6000rpm on the rollers and I still have a hesitation under 3k I think mine is a tooth out to be honest.
I suspected the timing as well. It was checked and it was spot on.

EDIT:
I just remembered that the slots on the crankshaft pulley was filed out by the mechanic for some strange reason and it was difficult to see the mark with the timing light...It looked right...I think I will replace the pulley and try again and see if it is out or not.
 
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weeJohn

Lifer
Your description of what happens at 6k revs sounds like the rev limiter being hit. Another thing that points to a mis reading tacho. You said you only took it there once before, maybe because you didnt hit it before it is unfamiliar to you.

The tacho is fed from a pulse coming from one of the 5 wires coming from the ignitor. I think it is IG- and it also goes to the diagnostics connector.

i dont know how to check the signal is correct, especially with a multimeter, but you could check the cables for damage, and also that there is continuity to the tacho at the instrument cluster.

It sounds like your "mechanic" may have caused this, as there is no other explanation.

Have you tried fitting another instrument cluster to check if the tacho is reading the same??
 

Guye

Lifer
UPDATE: I took the car and had the rpms checked with a multimeter. The mechanic used a clip similar to one found on a timing light that plugs into the meter. According to the readout my car is reving to and limiting @ 8000rpm! On idle the meter reads approx. 985rpm with a/c on while the tach gauge in the car shows about 500rpm. This is one problem solved. The culprit is the tach gauge giving a false reading causing me to rev the engine at a stupid level :mad: and limiting. I am very confident the slight hesitation before what I believed to be 3000rpm mark will be due to the timing being slightly out.
The question now is, how do I recalibrate the tach gauge so it shows the correct engine rpm? Do I simply replace the entire gauge cluster? Any ideas are welcomed & thanks for the inputs so far.
 

weeJohn

Lifer
I would try another cluster on your wiring mate to see if its the cluster or the loom. You need a local mate with the same car as you.

I dont know if you can recalibrate or adjust the stock tacho. People always say they are slightly inaccurate, but from what you have said, it does not seem anything has been done to the tacho to knock it off.

It all still points to this mechanic doing something to make this happen. Try the different clocks, if it is them, it may be just bad luck that they failed at that time. If its not the clocks, the mechanic is responsible for the bill for repairing it.
 

Adam_Glanza

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i was gonna say does the revs just get to 6000 and then redline or does it keep continuing slightly till redline?

it sounds like the tacho is just bust and making you think its only revving that hard.

but if you keep pushing it i bet it doesnt actually hit the limiter at 6000.
 

Guye

Lifer
i was gonna say does the revs just get to 6000 and then redline or does it keep continuing slightly till redline?

it sounds like the tacho is just bust and making you think its only revving that hard.

but if you keep pushing it i bet it doesnt actually hit the limiter at 6000.
It does feels like it hits a limiter at 6000rpm. It also stops at 6000rpm on the tach. The multimeter reading shows that the engine is actually revving to 8000rpm although it's only showing the 6000rpm on the tach. I guess I will have to get gauge cluster then...I was kinda hoping I could fix the one that's in there now.
 
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