Can I put standard 1.3 block into my glanza v

Frankieflowers

Fresh Recruit
I would go with a det3 from ecumaster if you go for a piggyback. they are 160 euros new. Making a plug and play loom may cost about 50 euros. Depending on local tuners the emanage or the det3 is the way to go. Mapping will cost a fair amount of cash.

The 4efe is really expensive in your country. Here you can buy a full car with 4efe for 700 euros :eek:
I have a great tuner for about €240. Corolla’s value is around €1000 as well. I mean mine has work on so it has a better value but you can buy it for about €1500/2500 in good conditions.
 

Jay

Admin
Here’s the list for the 4EFE conversion from Charis Ioil (The guy from Greece who did the amazing for 4EFE turbo conversion).

cr9 hybrid turbo £333
Bracket sub assy oil filter 15677-11011 £?
Gasket for oil pan drain (oil sump) 12101-11100 £50
Housing water outlet 16333-11140 £?
Front intercooler (like Jap Speed Kit) £299
Glanza turbo power steering £106
PIGGYBACK e-manage Blue £190
Fuel pump with adjustable fuel pressure reg £88
Cooling radiator overhaul package £214
Honda Civic aluminum half radiator £300
Turbo exhaust manifold (4efte replica) £99
That answers a few questions.

looks like he's strapped the necessary turbo bits on and is using the emanage blue for fueling. This explains the low boost level. The hybrid ct9 isn't seeing it's full potential.

Few things of note.

A used ct9 is always a gamble, those chinese hybrids can be just as iffy. I can't help but think the £333 could cover most of a td04 kit..

The oil filter housing is getting harder to find. They are made of aluminum so the threads strip easy. If you find one make sure you ask about the thread condition.

That £50 gasket he has in the list is actually the oil sump. Getting painfully harder to find in an undamaged state. There's two types, looks like he's used the later one from a Glanza EP91. To rule problems out get the oil pickup with the sump when buying. That way if it turns out to be a early version you can still use it. You could always put the £50 to modding your existing sump of course.

Thermostat housing on the side of the head. Again, out of production and getting hard to find a good one. The steel coolant pipes on the back can rust through so be careful buying. If you were running a bigger turbo you shouldn't need to run coolant lines so can disregard this.

Front mount sounds about right.

A used 4EFTE PAS bracket and pump is needed as the 4EFE sits in the way.

Management - important decision best made with your tuner.

If running a low boost level like that I'd be happy enough with 4EFTE injectors and a high flow pump. These are cheap enough. No real need for the adjustable regulator tbh.

The radiator baffles me a little. These engine bays have a lot more room than the EP82 I'm dealing with and I've run stock radiators for a long time. For ct9 turbo there's not much need to change anything, a larger unit would necessitate a smaller 'half-rad' for clearance. You guys are in a hotter climate so if it were me I'd search for the cheapest Civic triple-row radiator on ebay and your mechanic should be able to fabricate the mounting brackets.

The exhaust manifold will dictate which turbo is used. Be careful of those cheap chinese CT9 units. I've seen them crack for fun. Hateful things to deal with. A used WEPR mani is a solid option or a stock Toyota one should handle low boost handy enough. Check any used units for cracks and welds, it's a minefield. If you picked up a cheap td04 it could make more sense to grab a manifold to suit that. Remember to get a downpipe to match the manifold, it will make the exhaust fabrication a lot easier.
 

SKINY

Lifer
Corolla engine bay so plenty off room, Kev has the 2zz in his and loads off room still :cool: he's just killed it too ffs :(
I got my triple core rad on eBay for 65£. bracket kit another 25£ but I'm not sure they would fit 100% the corolla bay ?
 

Frankieflowers

Fresh Recruit
That answers a few questions.

looks like he's strapped the necessary turbo bits on and is using the emanage blue for fueling. This explains the low boost level. The hybrid ct9 isn't seeing it's full potential.

Few things of note.

A used ct9 is always a gamble, those chinese hybrids can be just as iffy. I can't help but think the £333 could cover most of a td04 kit..

The oil filter housing is getting harder to find. They are made of aluminum so the threads strip easy. If you find one make sure you ask about the thread condition.

That £50 gasket he has in the list is actually the oil sump. Getting painfully harder to find in an undamaged state. There's two types, looks like he's used the later one from a Glanza EP91. To rule problems out get the oil pickup with the sump when buying. That way if it turns out to be a early version you can still use it. You could always put the £50 to modding your existing sump of course.

Thermostat housing on the side of the head. Again, out of production and getting hard to find a good one. The steel coolant pipes on the back can rust through so be careful buying. If you were running a bigger turbo you shouldn't need to run coolant lines so can disregard this.

Front mount sounds about right.

A used 4EFTE PAS bracket and pump is needed as the 4EFE sits in the way.

Management - important decision best made with your tuner.

If running a low boost level like that I'd be happy enough with 4EFTE injectors and a high flow pump. These are cheap enough. No real need for the adjustable regulator tbh.

The radiator baffles me a little. These engine bays have a lot more room than the EP82 I'm dealing with and I've run stock radiators for a long time. For ct9 turbo there's not much need to change anything, a larger unit would necessitate a smaller 'half-rad' for clearance. You guys are in a hotter climate so if it were me I'd search for the cheapest Civic triple-row radiator on ebay and your mechanic should be able to fabricate the mounting brackets.

The exhaust manifold will dictate which turbo is used. Be careful of those cheap chinese CT9 units. I've seen them crack for fun. Hateful things to deal with. A used WEPR mani is a solid option or a stock Toyota one should handle low boost handy enough. Check any used units for cracks and welds, it's a minefield. If you picked up a cheap td04 it could make more sense to grab a manifold to suit that. Remember to get a downpipe to match the manifold, it will make the exhaust fabrication a lot easier.
How much would it cost to get an expert like you to put the pieces together with the right information to be installed? Ordering used parts from Italy is a big risk especially acknowledging what you just said. You guys have the art of modifying parts that not many have here. The best tuners are out of my league. If you could help me find the parts I would feel much safer send and with installation tips it could probably work out. Considering my research and your feedback, how much do you think we are talking about to put all the parts together including the extra labor to modify cUstom bits like down-pipe/manifold? I need to know an aprox total to decide to go this way or either buy a complete 4EFTE engine without gearbox for about £1600. That would have turbo, loom, manifold, Intercooler and all the parts that are difficult to find. I could save my engine in case something goes wrong. You guys have been long time around these engines so I think that no one else could know what is best to have 180 hp for a daily ride.
 

Jay

Admin
A kings ransom, totally immeasurable amount of money..

(Jokes)

Time is the resource that I lack, work is real busy at the minute so parts hunting is hit and miss. It takes me forever to find one thing, would probably take me forever to piece together a whole 'kit' of things.

Even then I'd be working remotely with no access to the vehicle in question. It adds a lot of risk to the whole build on all sides.

Sounds like a lot of planning is required. First get a tuner onboard. In the meantime I'll have a look for a few odds and sods at this end.
 

Frankieflowers

Fresh Recruit
That answers a few questions.

looks like he's strapped the necessary turbo bits on and is using the emanage blue for fueling. This explains the low boost level. The hybrid ct9 isn't seeing it's full potential.

Few things of note.

A used ct9 is always a gamble, those chinese hybrids can be just as iffy. I can't help but think the £333 could cover most of a td04 kit..

The oil filter housing is getting harder to find. They are made of aluminum so the threads strip easy. If you find one make sure you ask about the thread condition.

That £50 gasket he has in the list is actually the oil sump. Getting painfully harder to find in an undamaged state. There's two types, looks like he's used the later one from a Glanza EP91. To rule problems out get the oil pickup with the sump when buying. That way if it turns out to be a early version you can still use it. You could always put the £50 to modding your existing sump of course.

Thermostat housing on the side of the head. Again, out of production and getting hard to find a good one. The steel coolant pipes on the back can rust through so be careful buying. If you were running a bigger turbo you shouldn't need to run coolant lines so can disregard this.

Front mount sounds about right.

A used 4EFTE PAS bracket and pump is needed as the 4EFE sits in the way.

Management - important decision best made with your tuner.

If running a low boost level like that I'd be happy enough with 4EFTE injectors and a high flow pump. These are cheap enough. No real need for the adjustable regulator tbh.

The radiator baffles me a little. These engine bays have a lot more room than the EP82 I'm dealing with and I've run stock radiators for a long time. For ct9 turbo there's not much need to change anything, a larger unit would necessitate a smaller 'half-rad' for clearance. You guys are in a hotter climate so if it were me I'd search for the cheapest Civic triple-row radiator on ebay and your mechanic should be able to fabricate the mounting brackets.

The exhaust manifold will dictate which turbo is used. Be careful of those cheap chinese CT9 units. I've seen them crack for fun. Hateful things to deal with. A used WEPR mani is a solid option or a stock Toyota one should handle low boost handy enough. Check any used units for cracks and welds, it's a minefield. If you picked up a cheap td04 it could make more sense to grab a manifold to suit that. Remember to get a downpipe to match the manifold, it will make the exhaust fabrication a lot easier.
Do you regenerate and sell turbo converted 4EFE engines? Or I would buy a full kit with all the parts to be installed at my friends shop. It would have to include the modified manifold with down-pipe for to fit the Corolla E11. I would then follow your lead to get it mapped with the right piggyback. let me know what you think. Thanks.
 

Frankieflowers

Fresh Recruit
A kings ransom, totally immeasurable amount of money..

(Jokes)

Time is the resource that I lack, work is real busy at the minute so parts hunting is hit and miss. It takes me forever to find one thing, would probably take me forever to piece together a whole 'kit' of things.

Even then I'd be working remotely with no access to the vehicle in question. It adds a lot of risk to the whole build on all sides.

Sounds like a lot of planning is required. First get a tuner onboard. In the meantime I'll have a look for a few odds and sods at this end.
I totally understand. This is why I will have to decide to buy the ep91 4EFTE dull engine without gearbox and get someone to swap it. I will just have to add the fuel pump, maybe the piggyback you suggested to get the igniters generate more hp. My friend would install the front intercooler and that should be all, I will keep that’s precious all the tips that I got here and there, especially the engine front bracket installation. I still haven’t got a precise procedure from someone who installed this engine on a Corolla E11. There is a bolt that I will not be able to be used between this engine and my 4EFE gearbox. If I understood well. There is a modification to be done on my steering pump to avoid using before 4EFTE pump. I heard that it is better to keep my intake and adapted to the 4EFTE turbo intake. I will have to weld the manifold to the 4efe exhaust. If you could help with her for list it will be much appreciated as I really want to purchase the engine soon. The engine has around 90,000 kms. I asked them for the compression data. They will send me this info as soon as the engine gets to the British shop from Japan.
 

Jay

Admin
Will start with an easy bit - sumps.

The oil that is fed to the turbo needs returned to the sump so the 4EFTE sump has a port on the front to use as an oil return. You could save a few quid by getting a spare 4EFE sump and getting a fabricator to drill a hole and add the necessary port:

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Stick with the later Glanza sump if possible. If you share a pic of your own we can advise if you need to swap the oil pick up as well.

As with most things, turbo sumps are getting harder to pick up but be fussy about dents and impacts.
 
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