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alot of smoker are influenced by the word peng lol not such thing its a chav based saying
WTF is peng. Sorry if I am being stupid, but Ive never heard it!
alot of smoker are influenced by the word peng lol not such thing its a chav based saying
I dont agree. Ive sampled practically everything and have had not had any negative reactions, maybe im just lucky. As for alcohol, Is still believe it is far worse then shrooms or cannabis. Just take a drive through town at night dude...MESS! As for cannabis, taken in a controlled environment (like at home) you do not cause anyone anyone any hassle etc etc. So why not legalise cannabis and shrooms and have strict controls like you can only consume them in the privacy of your own home or in a registered vendor. As for driving under the influence, have you seen the ads dude? They can test for drugs now so, thats a no brainer really..same story as alcohol, if ya do it your retarded and deserve to crash and die:holdit:
Edit: I believe salvia should be banned and lsd should remain banned. Exstacy if produced right is safe, smae for mdma so possibly if there production was severly controlled they would also be fine. Sure you can buy legal herbal exsctacy but the come down is unbelievably bad...way worse than the illegal stuff! Cannabis and shrooms should be legalised but with strict guidelines on strenghts too be sold and where and when they can be consumed etc
"Ive sampled practically everything and have had not had any negative reactions, maybe im just lucky"
"As for alcohol, Is still believe it is far worse then shrooms or cannabis. Just take a drive through town at night dude...MESS!"
"As for cannabis, taken in a controlled environment (like at home) you do not cause anyone anyone any hassle etc etc."
"So why not legalise cannabis and shrooms and have strict controls like you can only consume them in the privacy of your own home or in a registered vendor."
"As for driving under the influence, have you seen the ads dude? They can test for drugs now so, thats a no brainer really..same story as alcohol, if ya do it your retarded and deserve to crash and die"
Dylan, did they not teach you about drugs at school? I am astounded you think that mushrooms should be legal, have you ever taken them?
I was taught over 10 years ago that mushrooms can trigger mental flashbacks or psychotic episodes weeks, months or years after taking the drug.
They can't test for drugs other than alcohol, they only need a suspicion (smell), it's designed to be a deterrent advert.
Very sensible.
Have you ever taking mushrooms? I dont think so otherwise you wouldnt of said what you said. Doing mushys causes mean as hallucinogenic effects depending what your mind is in. Trust me you dont want to have a bad buzz "trip" when you on mushys. I think if you havent experience taking any drugs then i feel you should before giving a statement you have never experience. Sounds like you think everyone that takes drugs seems to be happy as larry.
I've just realized, so you've sampled everything yet you think CREATINE has been the cause of you and your friend's problems? Thread.
Hilarious! Mr "Personal Trainer"!
Your simplicity in understanding how this would work is the fundamental issue.
For a start I believe the massive majority would agree to keep these other drugs illegal, so it's fair to say you're in a minority.
- There is nothing that suggests if legalised the drugs won't become more of a problem than alcohol.
- Current research is limited because the drugs are illegal, simply not enough is known.
- You've not considered the effects of a concoction of drugs.
- There would be champaigns against legalisation of previously illegal drugs.
- It would cost billions to impliment an infrastructure where by these drugs are manufactured, tested, quality assured.
- The above equates to massive taxes
- High taxes will increase the popularity of obtaining the drug illegally
- There will still be crime and corruption involved with illegal dealers
- More cost and strain on the police to enforce legality of public use
- More cost and strain to the NHS because of the increase intake and accessibility of multiple substances
- The same cost to police and other government departments such as SOCA to crack down on illegal trade
- Lack of money being invested in the private sector because people are feeding their drug related habbits.
- Increased government costs of advertising risks of these drugs
- Peoples perception of these drugs won't change, there will be confrontation.
- There are hundreds of points I haven't thought about.
I think your observations are pretty poor:
- Yes very much so.
- I'm sure it would be the same if they went out to drink mushroom soup.
- As with alcohol.
See above points.
They can't test for drugs other than alcohol, they only need a suspicion (smell), it's designed to be a deterrent advert.
Very sensible.
speaking of 'mushys'...i went out the back field there last week and picked about 30 of them.there were horses in the field at the time and im lead to believe that it is season for mushrooms in Ireland now? has any one any experience of picking them and consuming them for one of these halucinating trips?-advice needed
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its comments like this that show exactly how much you know bout the subject Luke.
Also allow me educate you a little more. In Amsterdam when you purchase these from stores (while they were legal) they supply you with an information sheet on each type of mushroom and what effects they will produce and their potency. Further more they supply you info on what sort of drinks to drink or foods to eat to neutralise the effects of the mushrooms should you want to stop the experience.
You claim to be open minded but throughout this thread you have consistently shown that all of your information is from government funded studies, the same government who silenced an expert in the field of drug research recently.
As for conspiracy theory ... that comment is full of shit in my opinin... its not a conspiracy if there is a man out of a job and two of his well respected colleagues have followed.
Be careful you have picked the rigth ones! If you have, dry them out. Put them in a tin on your radiator. When they are nice and dry you can crush them up into a dust and put them in your tea or just gobble them down!
There is a field in crosshaven called the magic field (apt!). Myself and a friend went down there and picked some at the end of last summer (When they grow) and I had my share on my own and they were dam good
When I was younger I had a similar view to yourself, when I gained real experience my views changed, which you claim to have, but I am somewhat skeptical of that given your ideas and opinions.
Please dont patronize me like that. I have plenty of real experience, more than you will ever know. I have used much of it in this thread whilst you have quoted online reports and people you know. You sound like you have zero real world experience to me. My advice would be to go out and live a bit and dont believe everything the government or people down the pub tell you - that is a sheep.
I also didn't say that expenses didn't warrant media attention. You seem to be twisting and manipulating things, I think this is because you realise you have no argument for, but are simply continuing to do so because you enjoy the confrontation.
Nope you are the one twisting... if you are going to quote me take the time to do it correctly. I said you said it didnt require MUCH media attention not that it didnt require media attention in general - be more careful with your quotes and dont use them loosely to try prove a point
There is no roadside testing for drugs other than alcohol as far as I'm aware. I know for a fact in Leicestershire this is the case.
there is the field sobriety test which is used to determine initial suspicion - get your facts straight
The simple fact is you are the minority with this, that is where you shall remain
You sound like you are fighting a little crusade here. This thread was not about being right or wrong. It asked questions and got mostly interesting and varied responses. The only person with a closed mind here is you which puts you in the minority. Your inability to question authority or look outside the box for potential answers to problems is unfortunate but thankfully there are some who will venture in to that realm which allows us to progress and not remain stagnant.
Its pretty obvious for your patronising tone that you are now just looking to argue Luke. I was enjoying the free discussion in this thread until you shit all over it with your copy and paste links and stonewalled ideas but you can have it all to yourself now as I got what I intended from it, some interesting responses and ideas both for and against.
My position is still open. I am neither for nor against I just think the topic is interesting and deserves to be spoken about.
Congratulations on ruining an open discussion much like the people you trust in government who have done the same.
The end. (from me anyway I am sure you will have some other point to prove in a thread that was not about proving points)
cool,sounds good. thats what im doing in the morning so ha.iv heard many things about these as in they grow and die in a day and the best time to pick them is in the morning? also is it true that when they dry out they release the chemical that makes you haluscinate? iv tried them twice now and havnt tripped once
put them between two bbq pringles chew very quickly and swallow - so I heard...they taste rank!!!
put them between two bbq pringles chew very quickly and swallow - so I heard...
Please dont patronize me like that. I have plenty of real experience, more than you will ever know. I have used much of it in this thread whilst you have quoted online reports and people you know. You sound like you have zero real world experience to me. My advice would be to go out and live a bit and dont believe everything the government or people down the pub tell you - that is a sheep.