how come we all go for front mount?

gv1.3

gv1.3

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heat soak is the main reason Id say.

Having an Intercooler on the front makes it easier to keep cool while standing still.

EDIT: it also makes getting at plugs and leads etc a lot easier.
 
glanzanut

glanzanut

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not really because as soon as you start to run higher boost levels a top mount becomes insuficiant. and there isnt enough room for a large top mount, as well as a fmic recieves colder air and looks better:freddy:
 
lingl9z

lingl9z

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I guess the reason they put the top mount on is space/cost... and good enough for the amount of boost they run as std.
 
Guye

Guye

Lifer
A while back many UK members just upgraded the TMIC with a unit from the RX7 or an ARC unit. These gave better charge cooling than a stock unit without the pressure drop of cheap FMIC kits. Nowadays FMIC kits for the starlets are cheap yet well built with better piping and cores than were offered 5 years ago. Also, if you live in 33 degree heat everyday like we do here, a FMIC when increasing boost levels is a must.
 
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MATTYBYRNEgt2008

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Guye said:
A while back many UK members just upgraded the TMIC with a unit from the RX7 or an ARC unit. These gave better charge cooling than a stock unit without the pressure drop of cheap FMIC kits. Nowadays FMIC kits for the starlets are cheap yet well built with better piping and cores than were offered 5 years ago. Also, if you live in 33 degree heat everyday like we do here, a FMIC when increasing boost levels is a must.
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be nothing wrong with that heat either
 
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Archergod

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Guye said:
A while back many UK members just upgraded the TMIC with a unit from the RX7 or an ARC unit. These gave better charge cooling than a stock unit without the pressure drop of cheap FMIC kits. Nowadays FMIC kits for the starlets are cheap yet well built with better piping and cores than were offered 5 years ago. Also, if you live in 33 degree heat everyday like we do here, a FMIC when increasing boost levels is a must.
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So which is a good but not over the top price FMIC that you recommend?
 
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starbuck

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I've got an RX7 top mount in my GT. Running Stock, and if thats all you going to be doing then you're not going to see much difference between that and a FMIC apart from cost.

I couldn't justify having a FMIC if it was just for looks. Now if you're going to be uping boost etc etc then thats a different matter.
 
Guye

Guye

Lifer
starbuck said:
I've got an RX7 top mount in my GT. Running Stock, and if thats all you going to be doing then you're not going to see much difference between that and a FMIC apart from cost.

I couldn't justify having a FMIC if it was just for looks. Now if you're going to be uping boost etc etc then thats a different matter.
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Agreed. A few years back, Gorganl ran an ARC TMIC at stock boost levels while I had a FMIC running about the boost. There was no difference in the feel of the cars in the daytime. It's only when the boost levels were increased that the merits/necessity of the FMIC could be fully appreciated. Even at 12psi, the FMIC showed its strenghts with high rpm charge cooling over the TMIC. If you can put your hand onto or take a digital thermometer and take a reading on the hot and cold sides of a TMIC after a hard drive (you'll have to be quick since heat soak sets in immediately) and then do the same for a FMIC, the differences in temps on the cold sides will be quite evident.
 
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gorganl2000

Lifer
Guye said:
Agreed. A few years back, Gorganl ran an ARC TMIC at stock boost levels while I had a FMIC running about the boost. There was no difference in the feel of the cars in the daytime. It's only when the boost levels were increased that the merits/necessity of the FMIC could be fully appreciated. Even at 12psi, the FMIC showed its strenghts with high rpm charge cooling over the TMIC. If you can put your hand onto or take a digital thermometer and take a reading on the hot and cold sides of a TMIC after a hard drive (you'll have to be quick since heat soak sets in immediately) and then do the same for a FMIC, the differences in temps on the cold sides will be quite evident.
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ah...young grasshopper....i agree with u there...good stuff

tmic were mainly to save money/time/space in production lines...as they did the job for what they were designed..if u plan to run stock boost an uprated tmic will do the job...if you plan to up the boost past stock levels, u really need to consider uprated manifold, fmic, exhaust---they kind of go hand in hand
 
Boab

Boab

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Yea, Toyota decided to put an interheater on the starlets as standard.pity :( Subaru too for that matter.

FMIC is definitely the way to go.

Bob
 
munday

munday

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A lot of it comes down to the thermal mass of the cooler, ie how much material there is to absort the heat
 
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