get a Greddy one, those are good!
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magnetic sump plug fail
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Captain Starlet
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The standard torque setting is 25nm.
I would hope that there able to withstand that!
I would hope that there able to withstand that!
Dave@TM-developments.com
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They are aluminium, 10-15nm will be plenty
finx
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this is a very common problem, i have seen many of these brake.
most common cause is over tightening, and the most common cause of this is the wrong selection of tool.
A ring spanner is more then sufficient for this task, loads of people use power bars etc which are not necessary and gives the user a false sense of torque as the tool is heavier and provides a greater amount of leverage which means its more difficult to judge how tight a small fastener actually is.
What is always overlooked is the fact that a sump plug is never under any load, its just there to block a hole. it has no forces acting upon it trying to make it come undone as such and only needs to be nipped up
as said although using a torque wrench on a sump plug is a bit pedantic it shouldn't need to be tighter than 15-25NM
Another factor is the material of the plug, if its alloy which allot of the aftermarket ones are then the tensile strength of the item is going to be allot less, this also needs to be taken into account when tightening
cheers
Ryan
most common cause is over tightening, and the most common cause of this is the wrong selection of tool.
A ring spanner is more then sufficient for this task, loads of people use power bars etc which are not necessary and gives the user a false sense of torque as the tool is heavier and provides a greater amount of leverage which means its more difficult to judge how tight a small fastener actually is.
What is always overlooked is the fact that a sump plug is never under any load, its just there to block a hole. it has no forces acting upon it trying to make it come undone as such and only needs to be nipped up
as said although using a torque wrench on a sump plug is a bit pedantic it shouldn't need to be tighter than 15-25NM
Another factor is the material of the plug, if its alloy which allot of the aftermarket ones are then the tensile strength of the item is going to be allot less, this also needs to be taken into account when tightening
cheers
Ryan
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Starlet_Sam
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I disagree, I think if you have a torque wrench and the rating you should use it. I have a steel one of these and when I nipped it up with a ring spanner it leaked. Got my rorque wrench out and did it up to the standard rating and no leak. When I did it first it felt bloody tight.
finx
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fair enough, each to their own and you make a good point.
in saying that not everything needs to be that regimented. is it necessary to get a torque wrench out to put an oil filler cap on? not really... but i bet there is a specific torque setting for that from factory as well, doesnt mean it needs to strictly adhered to.
i have never had problems doing them up by hand with a ring spanner ie leaks etc,
if the sealing surfaces arnt dead flat or the sealing washer is worn or the captured thread is dirty/worn then you will need to do the things up tighter or what seems like tighter to get it to seal.
another factor in that is everyone's arms are different strengths and hands have different sensitivity ranges so whats tight to one person may not be so to another, perceptions will always differ.
i use tools spanners bars etc all day every day its my job so i have developed a good sense of when something is tight enough or not and can judge so then apply it to the application correctly. to a casual tool user a more metered/controlled approach may be needed. (im not saying you dont know how to use tools)
cheers
Ryan
in saying that not everything needs to be that regimented. is it necessary to get a torque wrench out to put an oil filler cap on? not really... but i bet there is a specific torque setting for that from factory as well, doesnt mean it needs to strictly adhered to.
i have never had problems doing them up by hand with a ring spanner ie leaks etc,
if the sealing surfaces arnt dead flat or the sealing washer is worn or the captured thread is dirty/worn then you will need to do the things up tighter or what seems like tighter to get it to seal.
another factor in that is everyone's arms are different strengths and hands have different sensitivity ranges so whats tight to one person may not be so to another, perceptions will always differ.
i use tools spanners bars etc all day every day its my job so i have developed a good sense of when something is tight enough or not and can judge so then apply it to the application correctly. to a casual tool user a more metered/controlled approach may be needed. (im not saying you dont know how to use tools)
cheers
Ryan
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MARK@CMBAUTOS
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iv seen this a few times its nothing new its called over tighting 
iv done it my self
i don't feel u can tighten these enought so i got a steel magnetic one it works a treat :rockon:
iv done it my self i don't feel u can tighten these enought so i got a steel magnetic one it works a treat :rockon:
Dave@TM-developments.com
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If you use a new washer they only need a nip
