mines plug and play ecu

[cheadder.ep82]

I know its a straight plug in situation but after i do that do i drive the car easy? Gonna turn the boost s to a bar i have supporting mods just don't wanna blow it up

 

[corofin12345]

its different on all cars, only way to find out is to throw it in and find out.. let her warm up fully, the odd rev and go for a spin, try boosting her to see will it splutter... if so, take it easy untill it beds in

 

[Tim@TBDevelopments]

is this the old its self mapping thing again.

best way fit it on a rolling road and get it checked. If you do like above and "let it bed in" basically means pull the timing out to stop it blowing up, it'll pull the timing out the low down where it really doesn't need any removing.

Don't know why people bother with these for the price, get an emanage and do it properly

Tim

 

[corofin12345]

is this the old its self mapping thing again.

best way fit it on a rolling road and get it checked. If you do like above and "let it bed in" basically means pull the timing out to stop it blowing up, it'll pull the timing out the low down where it really doesn't need any removing.

Don't know why people bother with these for the price, get an emanage and do it properly

Tim

without getting into another endless debate, do you not think they are good for the price no? if i wanted to map a ct9 for 1bar it would cost me near double that and not the mention the expense of travelling to the limited good reliable tuners that you put trust in.. i havent seen one failure due to these ecus that i know of and ive fitted quiet a few for people, fair enough i used a wideband on a few before it gave up on me but the only plug and plays i came across to need bedding in time was the jam ecu and the blitz kv200 so heres that question no one knows the answer to.. how do they adjust to specific setups? im running a blitz ecu at 1.1 bar and never had one bit of bother, still dont

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

I personally don't know why a globally respected tuning company would invest thousands of man hours, money and tooling to come up with something that doesn't work...

And yes, I'm being sarcastic...

 

[corofin12345]

havent used this in donkeys years but here it goes :freddy:

 

[Rory]

When i fitted my Mines ECU donkeys years ago i just run the car as normal, aye with a heavy right shoe :haha:
Never did my car any harm but i checked the AFR at the same time of giving it some shoe.

 

[Tim@TBDevelopments]

I personally don't know why a globally respected tuning company would invest thousands of man hours, money and tooling to come up with something that doesn't work...

And yes, I'm being sarcastic...

because there not setup for our climate or fuel which makes a huge difference.

ask yourself this. would you take a greddy emanage map from someone elses car and put it on yours and run it flat out, regardless of modifications etc? if you know anything about tuning your answer should be NO

Tim

 

[Tim@TBDevelopments]

When i fitted my Mines ECU donkeys years ago i just run the car as normal, aye with a heavy right shoe :haha:
Never did my car any harm but i checked the AFR at the same time of giving it some shoe.

Atleast you did the sensible thing and had it all checked, if that's the case and its running all ok without any knock retardation then yes they are perfectly fine to use. My gripe is people just buying them, believing all this self mapping rubbish and just going out ragging the cars without any knowledge of what the ecu was actually setup for and expecting everything to be perfectly fine.

Tim

 

[corofin12345]

Atleast you did the sensible thing and had it all checked, if that's the case and its running all ok without any knock retardation then yes they are perfectly fine to use. My gripe is people just buying them, believing all this self mapping rubbish and just going out ragging the cars without any knowledge of what the ecu was actually setup for and expecting everything to be perfectly fine.

Tim

they dont self map but they do adjust via the 02 sensor...just like the stock ecu... the only difference is they have a more aggressive map and built in fcd, sld etc etc... i done endless research on these ecus and the only 2 that seem to give problems (bedding in) in the jam ecu and the blitz kv200... why? cause those 2 particular ecus were designed along side the jam turbo (high flow ct9) and the blitz kv200 (hybrid ct9) but even those ecus will come into their own after a few miles so again they adjust... blitz have 2 ecus for the glanza, the kv200 ecu was setup for the kv200 turbo but the other one was setup for the ct9b (stock turbo) and was also designed to run along side the stock fpr and fuel pump... sorry but my info on other plug and play ecus such as sard, ks-rom etc is sketchy..have to agree tho and say yes your dead right to say to get them checked out for fueling etc etc but i just cant fault them tbh.. they are a great upgrade, even after you finished playing with a ct9 and want to upgrade to a tdo4 or something, you can still use these ecus, weejohn was running 1.4bar with td04 on a blitz ecu and if you want to go down the emu route after, theres a nice lump of change in your pocket after selling the plug and play to fund your next venture..

 

[accent_97]

i run a mines never had any problems with it but at idle on cold is 1500rpm and when warmed is 1200rpm its that normal? its a year or so installed in the car

 

[billybob]

cheadder ,dave the lad you bought it off ran a td04 on it at a bar lad with no issues at all ,so running a ct9 hybird at a bar it will handle it no problems drop out the week end and il check it for ya

 

[Guye]

because there not setup for our climate or fuel which makes a huge difference.

ask yourself this. would you take a greddy emanage map from someone elses car and put it on yours and run it flat out, regardless of modifications etc? if you know anything about tuning your answer should be NO

Tim

Your way of thinking is quite mistaken Tim. The beauty of these ecu's are that they still use Toyota base maps. The same settings that would allow the car to run on 90ron or 100ron fuel, at sea level or 7000 feet above or in 30 degrees of heat Barbados or in the freezing UK winter. The only thing these unit do when it comes down to it is remove stock limiters/restrictions (speed/fuel cut levels, injector duty cycles etc.) while allowing for Toyota very conservative "safe" afr targets under boost. To say these units were mapped for any particular car or application is a mistake. I took my Jam ecu and ran 15psi with a stock ct9. It trimmed the fueling and ignition accordingly. I installed a ct20 hybrid and ran 18psi. The ecu adjusted accordingly yet again. I was running a bit rich and spitting some fire on the downshifts, but I never blew an engine because of a bad tune. These units are not the final word on tuning but they are by no means dangerous. The only advice I'd give is since these ecu's have like a 16bit processor at best, increase the boost incrementally, drive the car so the ecu can "see" the changes and compensate then repeat.

 

[David-Starlet]

i used to drive it easy for the first 100 km then give it a bit, as billybob said i ran it at 1 bar on ct9 then 1 bar on td04 and got no det at all will do a ct9 hybrid no bother

 

[weeJohn]

Put it in and let the car idle from cold to warm on it, then switch some lights and the demister on as well and let it idle a little more.

Then take it out and drive it normally, not ragging the tits off it and not taking it easy. Once its got some base idea of what it has to do, you can give it some after that.

 

[weeJohn]

because there not setup for our climate or fuel which makes a huge difference.

ask yourself this. would you take a greddy emanage map from someone elses car and put it on yours and run it flat out, regardless of modifications etc? if you know anything about tuning your answer should be NO

Tim

Some parts of Japan get more snow in the winter and higher temps in the summer than the UK. Judging from some of the graphs I have seen that came out of a MR2 turbo stock ECU that had been cracked, Toyota have quite a selection of ignition, fueling and engine temp settings in the one ECU.

The Emanage is only altering the Toyota ECU signals anyway, how can you not envisage another unit not being able to do it safely? How many countries does Toyota sell cars in, do you think there is a UK mapped and a Central American mapped ECU?

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

Don't be fooled by all you read, the climate in Japan isn't that different. Can be humid in some parts, can also be colder in the mountains. So, the difference between Scotland & Cornwall then, which means for all you people North, and for all those in the South, you'd better re-tune your cars accordingly... You lot over the ditch won't know what to do will you? :haha:

 

[Texx]

Maybe I shouldn't have been running the stock ECU for the past 5 years if it won't work properly within the UK climate using UK fuel?! :homer:

 

[weeJohn]

Don't be fooled by all you read, the climate in Japan isn't that different. Can be humid in some parts, can also be colder in the mountains. So, the difference between Scotland & Cornwall then, which means for all you people North, and for all those in the South, you'd better re-tune your cars accordingly... You lot over the ditch won't know what to do will you? :haha:

I will have to remap the car next time I drive to Santa Pod then, oh bollox.

 

[Rev]

The stock ecu does seems to have a map for every occasion but does have it's limits ? -

For much bigger injectors the pfc fcon piggy back was introduced , to control the bigger injectors at idle.

Although if I am remembering correctly the Jamaicans achieved 300 hp with a Mines ecu