207bhp on stock turbo

GTti

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Hi it is my car and the figures are correct so stop bitchin and moaning , i am willing to do any rolling road day to prove this. It is not running lean or any other bollocks excuse, he has done it properly. The apexi fc is an awesome bit of kit and teamed with a tuner who knows his shit these results are possible! IT is a standard ct9 and this car gets hammered on track. I highly reccomend steve at FC tuning for anyone thinking of getting re-maps/mangement work.



Define correct? Im sure the tuning is top notch, but these figures don't mean anything unless you had previously had the dynoed there. You have nothing to measure them against.

Anyway, I think those 'figures' (and they are only figures) are perfectly possible. People here need to remember that the majority get their car mapped with piggy back systems and not stand alone engine management.

You can't really compare one against the other.
 

Matchew

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^^^ I agree i made 191bhp on a piggy back system and was over the moon and an emb is only basic nothing compared to an ultimate or stand alone you can tweek and trim the map alot more with those setups, so i dont see why those figures carent be achieved the only person to my knowledge was ian who broke 200 with headwork
 

weakboy2

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Steve at FC Tuning may be the god of mapping/tuning and a very great person and I don't think anyone is saying anything bad towards HIM.

But I doubt the RR figure is correct! :p

Who cares anyway!? We all know the discrepancies between different RR here and even in different countries.

Pointless post.
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
same old over here. -_-


why its not possible? cos non of you didn't get the same figures? most of you use emanage... can you compare the two ecu's? also the tuner plays a big part of the game.

nexia got 190 with 11psi standard turbo on a standalone ecu. but hey... you all think its shit rollers :)

well anyway.. figures are just figures:)

maybe if he could rr it somewhere else we can see whats the difference..
 

Dub-Se7en

Lifer
a good figure, you've just took my record, haha.

makes me wonder what i couldda pulled from mine with proper management :)
 

jabran200

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Greg do you have an ATW figure? flywheel figures are pretty crap for comparing tbh, and it might just prove everyone wrong.
 

CMR

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Must be really nice to drive, 'perfect' power for a road car imo, specially that much power with the ct9's instant spool.
 

GT_Ben

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Got to agree, with 178 @ the wheels on a CT9 at 15psi thats an awsome result and will be a very tasty responsive drive! :drive:

On the other hand, it would be interesting to stick it on another set of rollers to see if theres much difference! :freddy:
 

BallıGee

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im no pro but the graphs look dead on at the start were there crossing hp and torque but then they look like they dont cross, whats goin on there?

im not doubting the figure i just wanna know whats happening with the curves

the graph is not showing bhp and torque it shows bhp and afr
 

ep82rally

Fresh Recruit
Ye but they are parts which he has either fitted or can see. The owner or WRC wouldnt know the full spec like internals etc, maybe its a 5E? :p

Also whats a Jam tuning chip about, if hes got PFC?

Thats a bit puzzling as well, how can he use both, or maybe he ditched the JAM for the power fc for this tuning session.
 
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nexia201

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You guys say its not possible just cos yours isnt producing that much bhp ,well thats stupid thinking I got 159bhp atw ( 190bhp atfw ) and the peak boost was 10.9 and this was on a new mustang rr which has been recently calibrated and the spec of the engine is very minimum I have a standard engine with no head work which i put std toyota pistons in recently , Fmic , Mr Turbo Ecu ,and a zisco ms mani with autobahn down pipe , I am still running on the Aygo fuel pump with the standard fpr .

When the car was set @ 7psi on another roller I was getting 135bhp atw and now on this one I got 159bhp atw is this figure so over the top??? cos i dont think so if you have a healthy engine with a good tune.

So if i dont have 190bhp atfw can any of you bright ones that is saying these figures are not possible tell me how i am managing 13.8 q/m runs which guys running td04 are not even close to?

Lets hear now :rolleyes:
 

Gee

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What is the turbo's max efficency/cfm?

Maybe somethings are just not possible?

What max HP did JAM manage on the car and what extensive work was done to the head/block?

I mean, the turbo is only physically going to be able to produce a max output no matter what.

I am seriously interested as I was reading a topic on another forum about the TD04L and its CFM/max HP it was able to produce as some people were quoting stupid figures from it etc.

I remember when people were jumping around saying certain tuner was a god because their TD04L produced over 300hp but turned out to be an incorrect reading due to spinning on the rollers or whatever.

So if i dont have 190bhp atfw can any of you bright ones that is saying these figures are not possible tell me how i am managing 13.8 q/m runs which guys running td04 are not even close to?

Only in Malta mate, lets not go there :D
 

nexia201

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What is the turbo's max efficency/cfm?

Maybe somethings are just not possible?

What max HP did JAM manage on the car and what extensive work was done to the head/block?

I mean, the turbo is only physically going to be able to produce a max output no matter what.

I am seriously interested as I was reading a topic on another forum about the TD04L and its CFM/max HP it was able to produce as some people were quoting stupid figures from it etc.

I remember when people were jumping around saying certain tuner was a god because their TD04L produced over 300hp but turned out to be an incorrect reading due to spinning on the rollers or whatever.



Only in Malta mate, lets not go there :D

well when you guys have no answer thats what you end up saying well the rr is not halfar and if halfar as you guys wish and think is downhill the rr isnt oh might be that the rr read stupid figures cos it is in Malta too wtf ??? so now we have one with a ct9 not in Malta with 207bhp oooooh whats the ecuse now?? it cant be too ? just cos its not your car??? as said before some guys on the site must be really jelous . After all I dont really care if you dont beleave this even when i have rr graphs to prove all i know is that im really happy with the car as it is .
 

Johnny_C

Lifer
i think that figure is pretty far fetched to be honest,quite like a lot of dyno figures ive seen lately...
 

BallıGee

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i dont see why it cant be done why is it people are such critics when someone gets good figures

heres a quote
people ask me to quote power , and im always BLATENTLY straight with people as you met me a good few times now


15psi is what the boost was set to and the car is strapped down well and tyre pressure to the dyno recommended factory


I could go into so much technical detail


but it was very interesting to read


To me, it was just 207hp and I did 3 runs at the end back to back just to ensure all was reading accurate and then i simply take an average


207 :)


everyone seems amazed and I dont know why
im sure he will sign up soon and have his say

fact 1 the guys a good mapper
fact 2 the car has a good setup

:kiss:
 
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