207bhp on stock turbo

Dub-Se7en

Dub-Se7en

Lifer
rumel7862008 said:
i Understand what you mean, but reading through the thread there are a good few debatable points, how many poeple actually used stock turbo on a stand alone ecu? not may. how much can the stock ct9 actually push out?

As i said i do believe the figure he got BUT there must be something else to it then just a map with the ECU!

There must be something else supporting the little CT9 to achieve that power!

Im curious to know what it is ;)
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headwork i'm guessing ;)
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
rumel7862008 said:
i Understand what you mean, but reading through the thread there are a good few debatable points, how many poeple actually used stock turbo on a stand alone ecu? not may. how much can the stock ct9 actually push out?

As i said i do believe the figure he got BUT there must be something else to it then just a map with the ECU!

There must be something else supporting the little CT9 to achieve that power!

Im curious to know what it is ;)
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thats the whole point! almost no one used a standalone ecu on a ct9 cos they think its useless! a good map plays a very good part mate!!
 
Dub-Se7en

Dub-Se7en

Lifer
Sheldon said:
and im sure you agree with me that a standalone with a good map is way better than headwork with rrfpr n fcd?
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i would agree a standalone is better than the rrfpr/fcd combo. headwork? nah mate.

put headwork and a standalone setup together though... :)
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
Dub-Se7en said:
i would agree a standalone is better than the rrfpr/fcd combo. headwork? nah mate.

put headwork and a standalone setup together though... :)
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hah maybe you didnt understand me. ofcourse headwork and a standalone would be perfect but what i was trying to say is, that if you got that figure with rrfpr and headwork, i think this dude here can get that figure with a standalone without headwork
 
Dub-Se7en

Dub-Se7en

Lifer
Sheldon said:
hah maybe you didnt understand me. ofcourse headwork and a standalone would be perfect but what i was trying to say is, that if you got that figure with rrfpr and headwork, i think this dude here can get that figure with a standalone without headwork
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personally, i think 207 is a big ask for an internally standard engine on a standard ct9. i'm not saying it's untrue, i'm saying i'm finding it difficult to understand how that figure was achieved.
 
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Matchew

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Dub-Se7en said:
personally, i think 207 is a big ask for an internally standard engine on a standard ct9. i'm not saying it's untrue, i'm saying i'm finding it difficult to understand how that figure was achieved.
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Yeah i thought 191 was a big achievement but i put that down to a good tune and an engine thats done 25,000miles at the time of mapping/rr'd
 
nexia201

nexia201

Member +
Gee said:
Nexia -

Those numbers are to calculate the max theortical output the CT9 is able to produce. What has that got to do with Zisco manifolds?

Sheldon -

Not the secrets of mapping, but evidance that the CT9 theoretically able to produce that HP output by its compressor maps calculation from the details I posted.

Spoons -

Don't think you guys understand. Maybe my car was not 275hp, but atleast I know the TD04L is actually able to produce these figures. Thats the point I am getting at, is a stock CT9 actually able to produce those figures at 1bar on an internally standard 4EFTE?

No matter how super the tune, at turbo can only flow so much air and produce so much power!

Obviously there are ways of cheating...putting ice packs on intercoolers and running race fuel etc, but like I said stock 4EFTE (not I am not suggesting this was done for the before the idiots start).

Dude,

Seriously, I am not arguing. I'm not jealous. Makes no difference eitherway to me if it really is 207hp, I'm just interested to know the details!! Dam, I don't even own a Starlet anymore!

Anyway, catch ya laters guys.

I've bitten my lip and not got into any of the EK9 vs Starlets threads threads so don't know why I am been pulled into this thread!
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Ohh so its IN THEORY now well thats bollox you have to see what its able to do physically not bloody theory ,there are so many different parameters that could effect how much an engine can output and different tune ups that they wouldnt even compare if you do 2 engines identical which in theory they should put out thesame
 
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Corey_gt

Admin
nexia201 said:
well i
think its you who have to dry your
eyes and people who seem to cry
when they see a good rr figure :)
so many broken hearts on here
when they see near and over
200bhp on a ct9 :beer:
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What are you talking about? Whos
heart is broken people are raising
questions which is understandable
because those figures dont happen
that much on a ct9 I dont know
why your getting all flustered and
annoyed over it.
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
corey_gt said:
What are you talking about? Whos
heart is broken people are raising
questions which is understandable
because those figures dont happen
that much on a ct9 I dont know
why your getting all flustered and
annoyed over it.
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out of topic. are you posting from a phone? thats why replys come all to the left side?
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
in japan starlets that ran 1 bar generally ran around 200ps when tuned well.

the jam racing ones did,

i know if you remove the ps pump and the a/c pump you gain more horsepower, so maybe thats how the race cars managed it
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
Ricky@JAP MAD said:
in japan starlets that ran 1 bar generally ran around 200ps when tuned well.

the jam racing ones did,

i know if you remove the ps pump and the a/c pump you gain more horsepower, so maybe thats how the race cars managed it
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200 is around 197?
 
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