F*ck the Police! All exhausts louder than stock illegal LMFAO

Mikey Jay

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Surprisingly, haven't had any trouble in the Levin yet.

Although don't really do anything to attract attention, just would have thought that a young guy in a car like a Levin would get noticed
(not complaining though :p)
 

Jay

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I'll have to upload the pic of what RMSNoel did to his starlet after being fined for his exhaust....fucking legend.

Finally found a pic. From what I know he's possibly still driving around with this:

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Timmy

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i'm sure the law is still 110db.
First tactic is to be polite to the police officer about it. Hopefuly he will let you go with a warning this is less hassle even tho he is wrong just slag him off later when he can't hear you. Than if he proceeds to try and give you a ticket than come out with your knowledge about 110db rule and him needing db meter.
I can't see tham changing this law, they can't move the goal posts as the exhaust would have been changed before the law came into effect and the stock exhaust has been thrown out. Should also point out that tvrs are well over 110db. I think it also has to measured at specific revs with the microphone at a specific distance and angle to the exhaust tip so twic exits may screw this up completely.
 

Jay

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The stories I heard go like this:

Noel (owner of the above 'marked' vehicle) arrived at the police station to show his documents and sort the £30 fine. Whilst waiting in the station he caught the noise of the police Subaru pursuit car entering the yard to which he thought he would go have a chat about their overly loud exhaust note...

After heavy interigation the police driver tried to evade his questions and subsequently Noel ended up being escorted back to the waiting room by three other officers. It appears you are not allowed to chase a police officer around a police station.

He then asked for a proper decibel reading for his 'illegal' exhaust and they didn't have the necessary equipment. He told them they could have their £30 fine when they could prove how loud it was. Until then he's going to drive round with the decals.

I still haven't heard how he's got on since.
 

stuart

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The stories I heard go like this:

Noel (owner of the above 'marked' vehicle) arrived at the police station to show his documents and sort the £30 fine. Whilst waiting in the station he caught the noise of the police Subaru pursuit car entering the yard to which he thought he would go have a chat about their overly loud exhaust note...

After heavy interigation the police driver tried to evade his questions and subsequently Noel ended up being escorted back to the waiting room by three other officers. It appears you are not allowed to chase a police officer around a police station.

He then asked for a proper decibel reading for his 'illegal' exhaust and they didn't have the necessary equipment. He told them they could have their £30 fine when they could prove how loud it was. Until then he's going to drive round with the decals.

I still haven't heard how he's got on since.


Lol legend, 1 rule for us and others for them it seems there!
 

Timmy

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there must be a way of checking the law? Would useful than we can make it a sticky.
Just wondering if the police managed to confuse the vorsa station by saying it is over the limit? their maybe such a limit on new cars.
 

Dub-Se7en

Lifer
this is what they got me on:

b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition.

he said it was louder than a standard toyota starlet, therefore it failed.

(this was when the car was NA.)
 

Timmy

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Yes that relates to regulation 54

Powers are available to tackle the problem of illegal noisy exhaust systems. Under the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, Regulation 54 requires that "every exhaust system and silencer must be maintained in good and efficient working order and shall not after the date of manufacture or be altered so as to increase the noise made by the escape of exhaust gases". Under Regulation 97 it is also an offence "to use a vehicle in such a manner as to cause any excessive noise which could have been avoided by the exercise of reasonable care by the driver". Enforcement of these requirements is by the police and in the case of maintenance, at MOT.

How ever your silencer was in good condition and was completly replaced. Modification is banned however but this is modification to the silencer itself and does not include repacing it completely. Looks like you were well and truely done for something you shouldn't have been done. I think the law reaggarding a specific db rating is actual a law more to do with any noise coming from the car not just exhaust this includes dump valve ect. I'll see what else i can find.
 

Timmy

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7.1 Exhaust System
2 (b) assess subjectively the effectiveness of the silencer in reducing exhaust noise to a level considered to be average for the vehicle.

A Reason for Rejection would be:

(b) a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition.

This was the reply I received when investigating this question a few months back. I also remember reading elsewhere that its down to the constable as to whether he/she believes its too loud as to whether the driver can be processed further. On some of the government law pages it also states that the exhaust silencer should be similar in noise to the original fitted equipment and should also carry a BS kite mark.


The kite mark does not refer to car only motor bikes

Refer back to regulation 54.

For motorcycles; it is an additional requirement that after-market/replacement silencers must not be sold or fitted unless they bear an appropriate approval mark that differentiates between acceptable and noisy silencers. Silencers marked "not for road use", or
 

Timmy

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From what i can make out there is no law for a specific db level. It is more down to your mot tester disgretion. This is good and bad, basicaly if you get a £30 refuse to pay it and ask for a rectifaction notice as you believe it is fine. Take it to a tester that agrees that a uprated exhaust system should be louder. IE this means that if your exhaust was just made to be loud it will still fail. However if it is performance orientated and your tester is a reasonable person it should pass. Maybe 95db is a bit loud for a n/a starlet but turbo it shouldn't be an issue unless it is just silly and most of us on this site tend to be quite sensible so decat small centre box and your average performance muffler should be fine.
 

Dub-Se7en

Lifer
Maybe 95db is a bit loud for a n/a starlet but turbo it shouldn't be an issue unless it is just silly and most of us on this site tend to be quite sensible so decat small centre box and your average performance muffler should be fine.

that's the plan this time round. it really annoyed me cos my car was by no means loud, they said it was just acceptable when i took it back and it sounded like a standard car.
 
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