Notice to all toytuning customers

[Derek]

Dylan why dont you take more of a backseat and let the thread develop like the other admin?

I am not condoning what has been done at all, I personally think its a shocking situation but he isnt a dull guy and maybe, just maybe he will do what it takes to save his business. Remember there are lots more avenues to revenue in the performance car market than TGGT.com.

Eh what's your problem mate? Dylan has every right to post his feelings on this. Who you think would have received countless pm's about this situation? im sure dylan and the rest of the admin lads have been flooded with pm's regarding this nevermind dealing with the countless threads. He is just informing the members of the situation and obviously trying to put this to bed by getting everyone a refund or there parts. And since he took those actions toby has resurfaced and some progress has been made people are getting a result. so i think a thank you is in order.As for toby tgtt put him on the map and you don't slap the hand that feeds you! which he did so good riddance. Even he does get back on his feet who's to say this won't happen again????

 

[affy]

As for your comment about TGTT not being the only source of customers for him....TGTT launched his business and the members of this site made him a lot of money. He showed the members of this site what he thought of them when he started taking their money and then ignoring them. If toytuning have other channels to market fair play to them but TGTT and its members are my priority. They also had a channel in the form of UKSC and they managed to destroy that too. Word travels fast online. Ultimately remember this - Toytuning did this to themselves and were given a second and third chance and continued to ruin their own business - I have zero sympathy for them. I run a business and if I ran it in the same fashion I would not be surprised to have the community I serve turn on me.

hmmm an excellent response and a very good thread, so glad this issue is still being talked about today, well done to you Dylan

sometimes people dont appreciate what others have done for them, where and how today is today is becuase of the TGTT community and most the modz who gave thier approval for him to trade, he won the trust of the modz, then started screwing people over not for days but for months and like mentioned no contact but fast to advertise other things such as cars?

so now he's been booted after months of evidence and now some people feel for him or want a second chance just think about all the people who are owed money and maybe you will change your thoughts

god knows how the peeps who are owed money are feeling just hope they can get it back asap.

 

[JGT]

I'm agreeing with gv1.3's feeling on this matter too, maximum awareness is needed by everyone and because of gv1.3 a heck of a lot of folk now know, it's probably saved a lot more people time and money so fair play to that.

 

[rickie]

I find it fascinating that in this modern day and age someone can get away with something like this. It's not like he swiped a bag of crisps from the shop and ran. Where is the law?

 

[alfradio]

TERCEL1: Solidarity

Guess I should've posted the following in this thread:


Sad to see someone turn to the 'dark side' but..... to show my solidarity:

It's the TOTAL LACK OF COMMUNICATION that always makes me go
ballistic... :shoot:

I'm sure (while people might not be too happy) a simple email to those he
owes explaining the situation... "lost my job and wound up using money to
make house payment... will return money as soon as I get back on my
feet..." etc.... at least people might be a bit more understanding and might
even feel his pain but to just drop out of sight.... leaves people with ONLY
their imaginations and that, at times can come up with the worst scenarios...

I would ask TGTT members who might know Toby or have heard, to step up
and shed some light on his situation?

:teach: "Better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness"
(does that saying even apply in this situation?

alf

 

[TurboDave]

Eh what's your problem mate? Dylan has every right to post his feelings on this. Who you think would have received countless pm's about this situation? im sure dylan and the rest of the admin lads have been flooded with pm's regarding this nevermind dealing with the countless threads. He is just informing the members of the situation and obviously trying to put this to bed by getting everyone a refund or there parts. And since he took those actions toby has resurfaced and some progress has been made people are getting a result. so i think a thank you is in order.As for toby tgtt put him on the map and you don't slap the hand that feeds you! which he did so good riddance. Even he does get back on his feet who's to say this won't happen again????

whats that comment all about lol. dylan is as entitled as any1 else to make a comment on here. dnt see why u got a problem with that. infact i got a good idea, if u dnt like it then dont read it....and btw toby for whatever reasons has destroyed himself but he is clearly happy to take peoples money and rip people off. leaving his website online pretty much proves that. there should be a 'stay away from toytuning' banner on every car forum and magazine, at least until he gets himself sorted and at least tries to sort out this dreadful mess.

Did I say any different? The moderators also carry a large following and too much input from them may discourage people with a difference of opinion from posting.

I personally think he should have been banned aswell and believe it or not I am also out of pocket..

My point if misunderstood was the point I made above.

...go sell another dodgy and damaged car mate!

OH NO HE DIDN'T! OH..YES HE DID!

Only joking!

More than happy to discuss it ANY time with you in person.

 

[smythy75]

I find it fascinating that in this modern day and age someone can get away with something like this. It's not like he swiped a bag of crisps from the shop and ran. Where is the law?

has he stole money?

is he not goin to supply the parts to everyone?
and were is it in the terms of trading that a item must be supplied in a certain period of time? the law cant touch him until he supplies the product! they can do sthin if there is intentions not to supply!

 

[Corey_gt]

has he stole money?

is he not goin to supply the parts to everyone?
and were is it in the terms of trading that a item must be supplied in a certain period of time? the law cant touch him until he supplies the product! they can do sthin if there is intentions not to supply!

He gives you a time frame on the site when you order your parts mate so when the parts dont arrive and you hear no communication in that giving time frame things start to go down hill rapidly.. People ended up out of pocket and have no explantation why so maybe you can see why people thought he was stealing.

 

[smythy75]

He gives you a time frame on the site when you order your parts mate so when the parts dont arrive and you hear no communication in that giving time frame things start to go down hill rapidly.. People ended up out of pocket and have no explantation why which is absolutely ridiculas so maybe you can see why people thought he was stealing.

has toby not contacted his out staanding customers?

 

[Jay]

has toby not contacted his out staanding customers?

I hate to point it out but is that not the whole bloody issue? Or have you been sleeping mate?

(Cat amongst the pigeons post - running out the door now! :haha

 

[smythy75]

I hate to point it out but is that not the whole bloody issue? Or have you been sleeping mate?

(Cat amongst the pigeons post - running out the door now! :haha

i know whats going on mate but people are talking crap sayin where is the law etc but i just said why do you need the law when he is sorting things out!!

 

[Derek]

If i had of payed x amount of money for something, and waited 3-4 months to even get a reply i would of had my solicitor,the police fuck i would of employed s.w.a.t to bang down his door looking for my money.

 

[Corey_gt]

i know whats going on mate but people are talking crap sayin where is the law etc but i just said why do you need the law when he is sorting things out!!

Are you for real I dont think you have a clue whats going on how are they talking crap? Its only the last few days people have been contacted. Some people are out of pocket a long time or have you missed that. They were left with not alot of options on getting their money back.

 

[sacodetoro]

has he stole money?

is he not goin to supply the parts to everyone?
and were is it in the terms of trading that a item must be supplied in a certain period of time? the law cant touch him until he supplies the product! they can do sthin if there is intentions not to supply!

on that premise he could hold onto people's money indefinately without supplying parts or refund.

some people have been asking for refunds for months, if they don't have any respoce or a refund they are well within their rights to take him to court, it may be a civil case but it is still the law and he would still have to do what the Court rules

 

[smythy75]

How is sayin 'where is the law' not talking crap! If people areso serious about getting their money back why havnt they started legal action? I just don't understand how people have the balls to say on here but don't go to their solicitor!

Suppose it's easy to blacken someone name behind a screen!

If I had a bad experience I wouldn't have waited on a thread like this starting!

 

[dac69er]

sometimes i wonder if people are just too impatient sometimes, so this seems worse than it really is? maybe some people are too quick to jump the gun and start hurling abusive emails to him to try and get an answer? i dont know???

i agree there has been issues before anyone starts slating me for standing up for him.


this is my recent experiance of toytuning for anyone who is interested:

i havnt emailed toby in ages. havnt bought anything off him either.

had a bit of an issue with a set of wheelnuts i bought off him ages ago, should have checked but they are the wrong thread.

i emailed him and got a reply within 4 days. he has offered to try and find a buyer for the wheelnuts and refund me the full amount. every email since has been next day.

admittedly nothing material has come of this as yet but his communication seems adequate to me.

last thing i bought from him was via ebay about 4 months ago. was a full engine lom for a GT. it was missing a plug for a sensor so i emailed him and asked if he could find out which sensor it was for. turned out to be one that wasnt needed anyway.
in this situation his communication was fine. he also offered to try and find me a plug off another loom if it was going to be a problem.

 

[Starlet_Sam]

The only way the law would really touch him is if people start civil action against him. It really is rather easy to do too, I've started a case and I may take it up as a hobby .

 

[Corey_gt]

How do you know they have'nt started legal action? Its easy to blacken someones name name from a pc but a bussiness taking peoples money not supplying parts and giving no contact with customers would'nt have anything to do with blackening a name at all...

 

[Starlet_Sam]

Well obviously I don't know. Just saying that it would be the most realistic legal route if someone wished to go down that avenue.

 

[sacodetoro]

it is easy to do (civil action) you can even do it online throught the government website, i posted the links near the start of the thread.