You see I disagree aaron and the reason behind this you have to take all factors into account, so lets look at the facts
Toyota Glanza/GT Turbo = 133BHP & 860kg = 154.65BHP/Tonne
Honda Civic SIR= 170bhp & 1050kg = 161.97BHP/Tonne
Now if you also take the fact that you have to drive the balls off the Civic to get it going. Both cars can have an LSD as mines came as standard. On a dyno the Civic will win but when it comes to the road it will be a close race standard on standard. Even if you turned the boost up but below fuel cut I think the Glanza/GT Turbo will win.
Not too mention the Civic SIR are comparing themselves to a 1.3 with 37BHP less as standard.
Christy
Christy you're soooo wrong, listen to even what the guys on here (starlet drivers) are telling you, standard on standard a vtec WILL win by a good bit.
You seem to have it in your head that glanza's are the quickest cars on the road when they are FAR from, don't get me wrong, I LOVE glanza's I wouldn't think twice about buying one, but I wouldn't be buying it to be quicker than my civic because it just wont. I think the glanza's are amazing for what they are, a tiny car with a tiny turbo which to me spells FUN FUN FUN!
Have you been in any of our (me, leigh, shane) cars? I can't remember if we took you for a run, in your post you say we would have to drive our cars too hard!!! Thats the point, vtec's are wild, they just keep giving you more, leigh only has about 10bhp more than you from what I recall at the rr day? How many evo's have you beat??? And how many has leigh beat in a EK9 Civic Type R?
All in all, it doesnt matter what you do to a glanza, you can tart it up as much as you want and it will NEVER come close to being half the car an EK9 is, the reason people on here don't have one is because either they are being as ignorant to vtec's as you are (though you have never drove one or been on a spirited drive in one), they have never been in one, or the most probable - they cant afford one!
I know people on here will think I'm a d**k or whatever but I really don't care, I have drove glanza's and been in many gt turbo's but not one has ever impressed me as much as the first 5 minutes in a vtec car.
You can blast on about 300bhp glanza's but tbh its a waste of money because it will be completely useless unless its in a straight line which tbh isn't really "driving" your car.
How many glanza rally cars have you ever seen?
How many civic rally cars have you ever seen?
I wonder why they don't use glanza's as rally cars if they are indeed as good as you say at beating the likes of an sir.
An EK9 IS legendary you can't argue with that, though you will probably say it isn't. A glanza is not really that much different than a standard starlet (bar the engine). Where as the EK9 has a fully seem welded chassis for instance!
It's just not the same league!
P.S. Shane's car is an Integra Type R not an Accord!
Rant Over...