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TD04_5EFTE

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Idrees said:
I can see how it looks from where you are sat buddy.

I have spoken to the guys and their friends because I have just wanted to know what's going on like everyone else has.

Akki was WRONG. The car was hit after the MOT test, no 'little bump', and it looks like Akki got Sham in to the shit. I don't see why people are saying they are best mates, I for one definitely know they are not. They are both forum friends, and go to meets and cruises together along with the other local lads.

Now please don't think I am just being a numpty here by sticking up for the lad. I haven't posted without knowing what's happening. (I think? Lol)

Anyway, Sham is one of the nicest people I have ever met. No shit. I am not close to the lad, but he really is one top guy. And I know your thinking 'wtf does that matter'. It matters because Sham is not a liar. If he was wrong, he would have atleast confessed to me, a mate. But when I have spoken to him he has been 100% honest about the situation. He did do the MOT before any accident, and passed it as the car was worth a pass. Then the person who had the car, someone young lad I believe, hit the car after the MOT test.

I am not a new member just signing up to back him up, I've been on here for ages and have met Sham enough times to know what he is like. And I am not just chatting a load or crap here because I know what people would think of me if I did that.

Also, when I was sat in his office when he was testing my car, I was looking through a book which involved all the car's MOT'd per day. There was easily around 20 per page, and if you guys really want, I'm sure Sham can take a pic of the book for you. (Not that it proves anything, but it's not nice people calling him a liar like that.)

Akki sold a dodgy car. There is evidence to show this. He can get done for it if Matt wants to take it further or whatever.

Sham did a legit MOT on is. There is NO evidence to show that it was not a legal MoT. Suspicions should be given to VOSA, no point going in circles on here.
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If thats the case Idrees, then it looks like Sham has become the unlucky fall guy for a fast sale gone wrong.

If the car did pass the MOT due to all the problems being fixed then it's prob as i said early the guy rattled it after the test and whoever wither it be Akki or otherwise put the broken parts that it failed on the previous MOT back on the car just to make it roadworthy and get it sold quick knowing it would be dangerous.

As i said before if that is the case then it's unfortunate but the way the world works people always go back to the last person who done something and in that case he was the MOT tester so he's in the fire line while the trader/seller says he knew nothing about it.

If you want it solved and i'm not being funny here but book a lie detector test for the jeremy kyle show as everyone will go round in circles.
 
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Timmy

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It's too far fetched saying the accident happened after the test. Look at the facts
Car get's mot'd before it is due......hmmm maybe so people won't examine the the car so closely
Car goes in for MOT with problems in fitting with a shoddy repair to front end damage.
Car get fixied and retested advisorys dissappear
Car sold on shortly after.... maybe trying to shift a crappy car quickly
New owner discovers problems with vehicle and discovers almost all the fails on the mot are still a problem.
It's all well and good sham saying "we fixed them and than the car was crashed after the test" but the fact is why has it got the exact same problems that it failed on during the mot.

And thats just on this matter, things don't look good for cars he has sold before, further more he is selling as unregistered trader which is illeagle and mean people buying off him will struggle should something go wrong such as you get more statitory right when you buy from a trader.

And Idrees you said you're not close with sham altho you seem to be in close contact and also believe he would confess to you if it were true. Thats the deffinition of contridiction.
 
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Starlet_Sam

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This thread is really boring now. Everyone has made their minds up so why bother with "oh I think he's guilty" then someone repliying with the reason why yet again. Can we not just let the mods deal with it now and leave it all alone?
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
Idrees said:
I can see how it looks from where you are sat buddy.

I have spoken to the guys and their friends because I have just wanted to know what's going on like everyone else has.

Akki was WRONG. The car was hit after the MOT test, no 'little bump', and it looks like Akki got Sham in to the shit. I don't see why people are saying they are best mates, I for one definitely know they are not. They are both forum friends, and go to meets and cruises together along with the other local lads.

Anyway, Sham is one of the nicest people I have ever met. No shit. I am not close to the lad, but he really is one top guy. And I know your thinking 'wtf does that matter'. It matters because Sham is not a liar. If he was wrong, he would have atleast confessed to me, a mate. But when I have spoken to him he has been 100% honest about the situation. He did do the MOT before any accident, and passed it as the car was worth a pass. Then the person who had the car, someone young lad I believe, hit the car after the MOT test.
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first off when i met up with akki when i bought my new starlet, i was talking to akki and saying about sham trying to rip me off by making me travel 200 miles to see a car that was described as almost mint and never crashed before, yet i got there and the car was a wreck, me and my mate couldnt beleive the state of it, and he thought i wouldnt notice the poor repair job.

i never met sham as he got his "mate" to show me the car, and when i pointed out all the bad bits of the car, even he couldnt think of any excuses for sham, and agreed that sham had wasted my time and apologised on his behalf.

sham never did apologise to me for wasting my time and £100 of my money.

any way akki told me then that he knew sham very well and said they were very good friends. i beleive he tolds a few other members the same thing.

akki also said that his cousin or some family member owned wrc sales, and even went down there after working hours to look at the car for me.

i have never spoken to sham since the car incident, i never had the time for him.

i pointed out to the mods about the whole thing and they told me it must have been a misunderstanding. i can tell you it wasnt a misunderstanding, but i decided i couldnt be arsed to argue.

sham then bought another car in that was an R grade, i know it was an r grade because it was one of the cars i see when looking for a car to import, and sham even recomended me to buy it, but i didnt want to take a risk on an r grade.

i told the mods about him selling an r grade car as being pretty much mint, but was told that i needed evidence to prove this, which is fair enough.


also i'm sure that sham told me he was mates with wrc and akki aswell.

and they all use the same 3 impoters.

i wouldnt say any of the above if it was not true, i am not just jumping on the bandwagon,

people cant keep saying sham is innocent, because when you look at the facts both him and akki seem to be as bent as a soho bar, and there excuses really do not muster.

when akki got his trading status revoked, i thought it was out of order as i thought he was a nice guy he done me a favour, but i didnt know about the other people he had ripped off. the reason i didnt know about this is because people kept silent about it, including the mods, the mods should have said that the reason his trading status had been stripped was because of some dodgy dealings, and this whole thing would never have happened, because everyone would have known.
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
TD04_5EFTE said:
If thats the case Idrees, then it looks like Sham has become the unlucky fall guy for a fast sale gone wrong.

If the car did pass the MOT due to all the problems being fixed then it's prob as i said early the guy rattled it after the test and whoever wither it be Akki or otherwise put the broken parts that it failed on the previous MOT back on the car just to make it roadworthy and get it sold quick knowing it would be dangerous.

As i said before if that is the case then it's unfortunate but the way the world works people always go back to the last person who done something and in that case he was the MOT tester so he's in the fire line while the trader/seller says he knew nothing about it.

If you want it solved and i'm not being funny here but book a lie detector test for the jeremy kyle show as everyone will go round in circles.
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why would somone do all that work to get it through an mot, and then take it all off after wards????????


it really dont make sense and dont cut mustard.
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
weakboy2 said:
With regard to Sham saying there was no advisories with the MOT pass because the original fail had one, is a lie.

When the MOT pass is issued, even after a fail, if the advisories are still unrectified a new copy of the advisory note is autmomatically printed and the MOT pass cert has a section on it that reads "Advisory Issued" and a box next to it that will either say "yes" or "No".

Just thought i'd put ppl in the loop about that part because that is also a lie, I'm not out to put sham down BUT why would he say a blatent lie if he has nothing to hide.
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above courtesy of weakboy2
 
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scotty01

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leedsboy said:
i fink it was after the mot! as he was sayin he jus got work done on it!

well anyways i know the guy that fixed it, hes got a little workshop in his back garden! and got couple of pics!
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Thats interesting as sham said in earlier posts that they did the repairs at Buck street garage as there were 3 of them repairing it unless i am mistaken:confused:
 
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TD04_5EFTE

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sx_turbo said:
why would somone do all that work to get it through an mot, and then take it all off after wards????????


it really dont make sense and dont cut mustard.
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Either donor car to supply the parts or depending on what the "impact" was then maybe some of the old parts could be used to bodge a repair.

It's a lot of If's that no one is gonna know the answer to apart from Akki, Sham and the guys car that it originally was.
 
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Hi, Just popped over from http://retrorides.proboards86.com:rockon: after it being posted on the forum.

Have read the thread right through, drink 3 cups of tea and been to the loo a few times, (I'm a slow reader.)

Anyway i have found this to be completely shocking but also a eye opener, power to the web and all that.

One thing no-one has noticed is the comment by sham:

Sham said:
The car came into mot with a different set of alloys than what wheels it was sold on, which may explain the bold tires
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Matt posted a photo of the car earlier with these wheels on:

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Now earlier in the thread someone posted a link to the car on ebay dated the beginning of October here:



but it has the same wheels on.

So that means in the month of it being ebay and Matt buying it, It's had different wheels fitted, MOTed, then the old bald wheels fitted again?. Looks like alot of pissing about to me.

Goodbye :)
 
gv1.3

gv1.3

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sx_turbo said:
the mods should have said that the reason his trading status had been stripped was because of some dodgy dealings, and this whole thing would never have happened, because everyone would have known.
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its pretty pointless repeating this but I will do it one last time... we had information from people who did not want to be mentioned and therefore we respected their privacy.

The car in question in this thread was not sold by a trader on this site so how would everyone have known not to buy from him? Are we responsible for him putting it on ebay too?

Akki sold cars on here.. he was banned from selling... am I the only one who would avoid a trader that had been banned from selling on here? Do we need to spell out why he was banned? He sold cars he was banned from selling cars.. how many reasons are there why he would be banned from selling cars?

At some point people are responsible for using their own brains....
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
^^^^ lol nice find

but there seems to be a lot of pissing about on this car by the sounds of it, doing all that mot work and then taking all that mot work off again.
 
sx_turbo

sx_turbo

Lifer
sorry wasnt a dig at the mods, i was expressing the reason i wanted akki to stay as a trader.




gv1.3 said:
At some point people are responsible for using their own brains....
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and that comment is what i found strange aswell, if the car was in that bad a state i still dont understand why cash was handed over in the first place.

i know were going round in circles, and akki shouldnt have knowingly sold a dodgy car and sham shouldnt have done a dodgy mot.

but the guy must accept a small ammount of liability for buying a lemon should he not?
 
gv1.3

gv1.3

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have to agree Ricky. If the car was in such a state wouldnt you at least take some snaps of the damage etc?? I know he says he is not too technical but bald tires are easy to spot.

I think Matt should thank his lucky stars and should be more careful next time.
 
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retroridesmember said:
Hi, Just popped over from http://retrorides.proboards86.com:rockon: after it being posted on the forum.

Have read the thread right through, drink 3 cups of tea and been to the loo a few times, (I'm a slow reader.)

Anyway i have found this to be completely shocking but also a eye opener, power to the web and all that.

One thing no-one has noticed is the comment by sham:



Matt posted a photo of the car earlier with these wheels on:

2mxl8bk.jpg


Now earlier in the thread someone posted a link to the car on ebay dated the beginning of October here:



but it has the same wheels on.

So that means in the month of it being ebay and Matt buying it, It's had different wheels fitted, MOTed, then the old bald wheels fitted again?. Looks like alot of pissing about to me.

Goodbye :)
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Was also this pic with diff wheels on!

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dan_ep82

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this thread has turned into a load off bullshit, its supposed to be a debate not a bunch of girlies clawing at one anothers hair.

I for one cannot comment on sham personally as i do not know him. but to me nothing adds up and i would no longer feel comftable buying from him if i ever wanted something.
 
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