This is just another 'i hate VTEC' threads anyway lol but..
I've owned a starlet turbo and now own a civic n i like them both..
i think the civic is alot nicer 2 drive and a feel alot more safe in it, but im going 2 get a glanza sum time next year. they have alot more potential without having 2 spend stupid money.
and GEE u really dnt like honda's do u??? Bad experience in the past or sumthin??