4EFE vs 4EFTE engine block differences for forged engine build.

Frankieflowers

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Aftermarket camshafts is something that I have never ran before
I was happy with using the fe camshafts but as they are different I will need to source fte camshafts pr buy aftermarket. I emailed Nippon Auto spares again but they are not answering. I’ll have to call them. Any alternative find fte camshafts? Thank you for helping out.
 

daniel_g

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Most people just run ARP main bolts and not studs. However it is personal preference.

As for the aftermarket camshafts, I only know of Ivan Tighe in Australia, as Speedvision in the USA seems to have closed down.

You will need to swap the cam gears onto any new aftermarket set you buy.

Standard FTE cams are ok if they are in good condition.
 

Frankieflowers

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This is from a glanza and a 4efe starlet..
Someone can tell me I've provided you the wrong info I'm not sure
You are right. I checked as well after we spoke.
Can we make a list of the different parts between the engines. I need to know if I can ise the FE block to be forged as a FTE changing only the oil sump and oil filter relocation. If the engine head is the same besides the camshafts I will have to buy them. Also the engine head rocket is different as the FTE has the oil breather. What else?
 

Frankieflowers

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Most people just run ARP main bolts and not studs. However it is personal preference.

As for the aftermarket camshafts, I only know of Ivan Tighe in Australia, as Speedvision in the USA seems to have closed down.

You will need to swap the cam gears onto any new aftermarket set you buy.

Standard FTE cams are ok if they are in good condition.
I checked and valves are the same on both engines. So camshafts are the only Zoem Part I have to source together with the oil feed to adapt the fe oil sump. Do you have any link to find the feed metal kit with washer?
The head rocket has the oil breather on the top right on the fe. It will work.
 

Jay

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Hi Frankie, haven't had a great deal of time spare recently but Daniel is steering you rightly, there's a lot to be said for firsthand experience!

I would be checking the spec of the engine you are basing the build on first. If it's the Corolla engine I don't think the camshafts are shared in the 4EFTE nor are the valve springs as already mentioned.

Can remember someone saying the 4EFE and 4EFTE have the same lift and duration as each other but that could be wrong, if I can find the info in the manuals here I'll post it. You could also be working against some random production differences too, the E11 4EFE I turbocharged only had one bolt hole for the distributor for example. A minor issue but still threw a curved ball into proceedings!

Do you have any tech info on your 4EFE?
 

Jay

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Oh and the 4EFE rocker cover will fit but the breather port a bit more restricted than the 4EFTE version. In fact it actually made an odd whistling noise when left open to atmosphere which the turbo breather doesn't. Just a case of piping it to an oil catch can to eliminate that noise.

(Or yours may not even do it, depends on crankcase pressure)
 

Frankieflowers

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Oh and the 4EFE rocker cover will fit but the breather port a bit more restricted than the 4EFTE version. In fact it actually made an odd whistling noise when left open to atmosphere which the turbo breather doesn't. Just a case of piping it to an oil catch can to eliminate that noise.

(Or yours may not even do it, depends on crankcase pressure)
I understand. If I can avoid buying a new head rocket it will be better.
 

Frankieflowers

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Hi Frankie, haven't had a great deal of time spare recently but Daniel is steering you rightly, there's a lot to be said for firsthand experience!

I would be checking the spec of the engine you are basing the build on first. If it's the Corolla engine I don't think the camshafts are shared in the 4EFTE nor are the valve springs as already mentioned.

Can remember someone saying the 4EFE and 4EFTE have the same lift and duration as each other but that could be wrong, if I can find the info in the manuals here I'll post it. You could also be working against some random production differences too, the E11 4EFE I turbocharged only had one bolt hole for the distributor for example. A minor issue but still threw a curved ball into proceedings!

Do you have any tech info on your 4EFE?
Thanks for reaching out.

i checked all the possible different parts. I need to find a 4efte water output to have 2 water feeds for the turbo. Or maybe I can use an adaptor tirbo feed kot?
Can ypu help me with that? I also neel a fte oil sump or just the oil feed that goes in the sump. I def need fte camshafts. Valves are the same.
 

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Jay

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About twice the diameter of the 4EFE breather.

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Or get something fancy done like this (pic courtesy of Mattys Monster)

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