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He must have a lot of lean burn mapping in to get it to spool by 4k rpm. But on a race engine it doesnt matter that much if it goes pop.

the engine has been going strong for the past 2 years.. touch wood only needed a head gasket recently as he had a little boost spike.. but apart from that its anything but lean, in fact he wont drive it unless he can physically see that its running much towards the richer side of things... :)
 

TurboDave

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the engine has been going strong for the past 2 years.. touch wood only needed a head gasket recently as he had a little boost spike.. but apart from that its anything but lean, in fact he wont drive it unless he can physically see that its running much towards the richer side of things... :)

When mapping in order to get the turbo to spool the mapper introduces a lean burn just before the car comes on boost at say 3000rpm, the lean burn before it comes on boost causes greatly increased exhaust gas temperatures where the extra heat in the exhaust gas is now transferred to the turbine wheel and helps the turbo to spool before it would normally. It is risky and needs to be tuned very well but that is how they help the turbo come on boost.

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Kelly

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Which depends on the car, and where the torque is delivered, how the torque is transfered to the road.

You can attack a corner as fast as you like, but as far as I'm concerned the smoother the better, the more traction, more control, you should be attacking out of the corner more than anything.


Gotta agree with Luke on this one.
 

steveep82

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When mapping in order to get the turbo to spool the mapper introduces a lean burn just before the car comes on boost at say 3000rpm, the lean burn before it comes on boost causes greatly increased exhaust gas temperatures where the extra heat in the exhaust gas is now transferred to the turbine wheel and helps the turbo to spool before it would normally. It is risky and needs to be tuned very well but that is how they help the turbo come on boost.

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Exactly, you cant magically map a car to spool a turbo without promoting more energy in the exhaust gases, ie more heat. Pretty risky for a track car, not so much on a drag car.
 

SaRfI

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no mate they chose a supercharger becuase the supercharged 1.8 is readily available unit from toyota and used in existing cars, nothing to do with power delivery. More to do with the fact they already have a deal with toyota to use there engines.

No sir the supercharger is developed by Lotus Engineering. Toyota has nothing to do with it ;)

Turbo v supercharging


There’s no doubting that a supercharger gives a more even spread of power and, unlike a turbo, it keeps on going. Lotus has had plenty of experience with small capacity turbos with the Vauxhall VXR220 Turbo. Like many blown cars it makes rapid progress but in a series of surges. It’s not so noticeable on the road but on the track the turbo does its stuff and then just goes flat. It feels very odd.

Lotus has employed a Rootes-type Eaton M62 supercharger. It would be simplistic to say that it just bolts onto the standard Toyota engine but in fact it’s not actually far from the truth. The engine really is unmodified, save for a thorough reworking of the Lotus T4 engine management system which takes care of fuelling and ignition and the now lower rpm switching of the cam profiles. Like turbos, superchargers like to gorge on fresh air and a massive intercooler sits on top of the engine fed by the roof mounted air-scoop.

Whereas a turbo tends to boost the mid-range before running out of puff at the top end, a supercharger gives you both mid and top end. The 240R produces its 243bhp at a heady 8,000rpm compared to the standard Exige’s 192bhp at 7,800rpm. Peak torque with supercharger propulsion is 174lb-ft at 7,000rpm against 133lb-ft at 6,800rpm for atmo.

However follow the curves down and the supercharger is doing its thing right across the rev range and it’s a much flatter curve too. The standard engine has a very noticeable dip in the torque curve between 5,000rpm and 7,000rpm, which is where the cam switch takes place. The 240R engine suffers none of this: its torque curve virtually flat from 5,000rpm all the way to 7,000rpm. That gives an incredibly flexible and useable power band that can be dipped in and out of without having to rev the gonads off the thing. That it will continue charging round to 8,500rpm is a bonus should you need to hang onto a gear on track.

Source=Google :)
 
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