CAP clutches

[speedvision]

they are they the same but?? as this guy i know you told him its not the same as you get from caps site

i started selling cap cluthes maybe in 2005-2006 when no one knew about the company....i had no idea what clutch fit the ep82 at first so i had to send them a complete kit so i can get the correct part ordered.....as you all know a slight diff in size will not fit...
now that some pple knop what other cars will line up they order themselves and others order thru me when they are not sure..

sam

 

[speedvision]

Be careful of what, accurately describing what is a crap clutch much like other exedy's. Strong statements are only made on experience of this

Update.........Helix paddle clutch fitted this evening as guess what, it works:rockon:

The quality of the Helix clutch makes the Cap clutch look pathetic in all honesty

To be honest i expected a typical 'forum' response of 'well mine is ok' and an objection to technical knowledge stating the faults with these clutches. Respect is due to the last few people who have stood up and admitted problems with the clutches. I hope this proves something to the non believers.......

So now after pretty conclusive evidence all thats left is for Speedvision to arrange what happens now

i have told cap that u used 2 of their kits ..none worked and all hydraulics were checked and changed where necessary......and u installed a helix and all is ok....i am waiting on a response from them and i hope its favourable

sam

 

[gorganl2000]

Be careful of what, accurately describing what is a crap clutch much like other exedy's. Strong statements are only made on experience of this-----no, becareful of what u say in general, sometimes u can be held accountable in the legal system...the laws of probabilty/observation in proving/disproving something still have to hold in the real world

Update.........Helix paddle clutch fitted this evening as guess what, it works:rockon:-----i am truly very happy for you and your client,,,at least he has his car now:rockon:

The quality of the Helix clutch makes the Cap clutch look pathetic in all honesty ---this is an opinion, i'm sure many of us have all heard good and bad things about MANY makes of clutches,,,and some experiences have been different to say the least

To be honest i expected a typical 'forum' response of 'well mine is ok' and an objection to technical knowledge stating the faults with these clutches. Respect is due to the last few people who have stood up and admitted problems with the clutches. I hope this proves something to the non believers.......-----people can only comment on what they experience, this is a forum and it would not be credible if everyone agreed about everything...members have different experiences on many topics...this being one......i dont think they were any members trying to purposely discredut what u said,,,just a lot of them actually had no problems and related that info......the ones who did have problems, also related that info

So now after pretty conclusive evidence all thats left is for Speedvision to arrange what happens now----

well again...glad the guy's car is driving:rockon:....keep it safe

PS---i dont run a cap or helix clutch....so just my independent opinion---sure i could be wrong

 

[mike_1984]

thanks for the input, and just to clarify the flywheel was sorted before the second cap went in

Will be interesting to hear what cap have to say to you on the matter, but i'd also like to know what sort of recompense you will be offering sam as i bought the kit from you, not directly from cap.

 

[Sheldon]

i started selling cap cluthes maybe in 2005-2006 when no one knew about the company....i had no idea what clutch fit the ep82 at first so i had to send them a complete kit so i can get the correct part ordered.....as you all know a slight diff in size will not fit...
now that some pple knop what other cars will line up they order themselves and others order thru me when they are not sure..

sam

ic... cos he was told that theye where specificly made for you thats why they dont list them! oh well good luck mike!

 

[speedvision]

ic... cos he was told that theye where specificly made for you thats why they dont list them! oh well good luck mike!

if you check they still dont list them specifically for the ep82 !!! the kit i sent to them is made for me when i order.....when others order they order different makes and models that suits..

sam

 

[Sheldon]

if you check they still dont list them specifically for the ep82 !!! the kit i sent to them is made for me when i order.....when others order they order different makes and models that suits..

sam

interesting.... DIFFERENT MAKE?? the ones they order from you are exedy refurbished?

 

[ChrisGT]

So you don't supply the 16-055HPS clutch Sam?

 

[speedvision]

interesting.... DIFFERENT MAKE?? the ones they order from you are exedy refurbished?

ok dont get mixed up now....not different make nor brand...100% cap clutch as its direct from them when i order...whatever material they use is the same as all their models...what i was trying to say is that in 2005-2006 i had to send a 4efte clutch kit to them to get the correct size and pattern as i didnt kno what model or other cars fitted at that point...

i never went by a part number or model number....i just asked for the size of what i sent to them...whatever part numbers matches up is what they use...

sam

 

[Sheldon]

theres another thing about CAP... they say new never rebuild...

yeah with an exedy logo or daiken whatever it is !? lol

 

[speedvision]

just to warn members there is also a 213mm kit which rubs on the gearbox and i know alot of guys who ordered this and think it would fit...

sam

 

[dan4]

just to clarify, the flywheel was sorted for the second cap clutch but it still didn't work, just glad the new helix one does

another waste of cash ay mike but hey what do i know:haha: only that i said the clutch was crap (or cap pmsl) as soon as fitted it

So where's the poor lads refund:slap:

 

[miller3]

Dan4 i got a CAP from Speedvision and at first i had probs like you did to the extent i took the box off again' but after a bit of reading on here you can adjust the clutch pedal inside the car! So with a tad of adjustment all is good and been ok for nearly a year now id say HTH

 

[dan4]

Dan4 i got a CAP from Speedvision and at first i had probs like you did to the extent i took the box off again' but after a bit of reading on here you can adjust the clutch pedal inside the car! So with a tad of adjustment all is good and been ok for nearly a year now id say HTH

the adjustment is mainly to adjust pedal free play, it made no difference on either clutch

again the clutches are tripe:slap:

 

[GTdan]

intersting reading is this, glad you got it sorted in the end.
but am gonna jump on this band wagan as ive got a cap clutch and didnt have any problems fitting or with selecting gear.

 

[mike_1984]

any word back from cap yet sam?

 

[HYBRID]

Just to clear something out.. cap are NOT made in conjunction with Exedy, but with SPEK clutches.. we know this for a fact as its written on the pressure plate of a cluch system we have.. which might i add works perfectly on a 350+bhp gt

the only problem we encountered was that the whole crank needed to be rebalanced & when hte clutch was assembled to the crank it threw the balancing waay off.. nothing serious, some engineering work & all was fine

they are a very good clutch kit, just make sure u balance before using

kon

 

[Phil]

odds are, whoever fitted it for you mike got something wrong that he didnt get wrong with the helix. maybe it wasnt balanced right or adjusted correctly.

if so many members are running these clutchs without issue, then you fit two with problems then manage to fit a different brand without issue id say that there is nothing wrong with your gearbox but its down to two things.

1) fitment
2) cap clutch

you say the clutches are tripe.. but others have got them working without issue.
you fitment skills however are only known on here from these problems?!

so you cant really complain if we are scratching are heads wondering just what/where the fault lies!

Phil

 

[Sheldon]

Just to clear something out.. cap are NOT made in conjunction with Exedy, but with SPEK clutches.. we know this for a fact as its written on the pressure plate of a cluch system we have.. which might i add works perfectly on a 350+bhp gt

the only problem we encountered was that the whole crank needed to be rebalanced & when hte clutch was assembled to the crank it threw the balancing waay off.. nothing serious, some engineering work & all was fine

they are a very good clutch kit, just make sure u balance before using

kon

alura isa qed titkelem gorg?!?! lol!

 

[dan4]

Just to clear something out.. cap are NOT made in conjunction with Exedy, but with SPEK clutches.. we know this for a fact as its written on the pressure plate of a cluch system we have.. which might i add works perfectly on a 350+bhp gt

Then perhaps you would care to look again at our pics, exedy clearly printed on sprung centre.....

odds are, whoever fitted it for you mike got something wrong that he didnt get wrong with the helix. maybe it wasnt balanced right or adjusted correctly

Pmsl balanced and adjusted oh please the Helix clutch was out and out quality, the Cap looked like it would fall out of an xmas cracker there is the answer to why it worked

you say the clutches are tripe.. but others have got them working without issue.
you fitment skills however are only known on here from these problems?!

so you cant really complain if we are scratching are heads wondering just what/where the fault lies!

And now i see people coming out of the woodwork saying they have had problems funny that. Others probably just put up with a crap drive/gear selection

To be honest i dont doubt my fitment skills at all, i am a qualified engine and gearbox specialist and i have built, mapped and enjoy a 500hp supra(running a good rps clutch :rockon. I have done plenty of starlet clutches, they are not hard! Christ even mike, the customer could see the difference and faults with the Cap clutch before i even mentioned them.... But hey this isnt about my skills its about the state of the two clutches supplied by Speedvision from Cap......

why waste time scratching heads when the point is proven:haha:

those of you who genuinely have no problems are lucky imho

Still no reply from Speedvision i see.....