CAP clutches

lvaleiron

Member +
may i ask how long did your original clutch last slipping before buying a cap clutch??? cause if it was long enough or driven hardly enough to damage the first flywheel, then maybe this cause you problems with the 2 cap clutches you had. Just a suggestion.
 
there are no angles left, all were eliminated attempted to prove the point already known....that the clutches do not work

Exedy are no match for similarly specced clutches from other proven manufacturers

well those are very strong statements to make-----becareful:)

to be honest...its hard to say the clutches dont work....when it seems like the others in this said post who use this same clutch have had no problems---several of them using them for a while ---gt dan, jezza, sheldon, glanza dan, knightsy-ep91, danturbo4311, montanajr, gt-td04.....some say a little judder and then the cltuch settled....and they seem happy ever since

your client being the only person in this tread who had issues with the 2 clutches provided......and this is in perspective of this tread

well...i honestly hope u get it sorted out from the client's sake--- who seems to have been without a car for a while
 
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Ted

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i had a cap clutch a while back, fitted correctly and couldnt get gears easily, reverse was a no no. suspected it was the cover so ordered an uprated exedy one off dave and put it in the car with the cap paddle disc. bit juddery but worked fine. so i left the cap cover in a corner and left it.

then this year we were building the corolla track car to turbo spec and needed a clutch. money was tight so just to see what happened we put the old cap cover in with a std turbo disc. and it fucking worked!

so ive found that yes cap clutches can be troublesome but havent a clue why.
 

Gryzor

Admin
1st and 2nd can be difficult for me sometimes. do you think it could be down to the disc or the cover Ted ?
 

Ted

Member +
if the disc worked fine in one setup and the cover in another i honestly dont know. maybe someone else could shed light on it.
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
if the disc worked fine in one setup and the cover in another i honestly dont know. maybe someone else could shed light on it.

maybe could have been that the presure plate was stiff and hydrolic system was not bled correctly? just a guess...

when we did nexias one with a trd unit couldnt put in gears then we adjusted clutch cable and was fine... only in highrevs he cannot selelct i think 3rd.
 

Ted

Member +
maybe could have been that the presure plate was stiff and hydrolic system was not bled correctly? just a guess...

when we did nexias one with a trd unit couldnt put in gears then we adjusted clutch cable and was fine... only in highrevs he cannot selelct i think 3rd.

not hard to bleed a clutch mate, and myself and trevor fitted it twice, still hard to get in gear, once with cap release bearing, once with std toyota one. i adjusted the cable too.
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
not hard to bleed a clutch mate, and myself and trevor fitted it twice, still hard to get in gear, once with cap release bearing, once with std toyota one. i adjusted the cable too.

i kno mate it was just a maybe? :)

well so you have to be lucky to get a good cap clutch i guess :S
 

Ted

Member +
i kno mate it was just a maybe? :)

well so you have to be lucky to get a good cap clutch i guess :S

no its not like that. my cover worked with a standard disc and the disc worked with an exedy cover so the problem must be a quirk of fitting. maybe some part isnt made exactly correctly and it causes an issue just the odd time.
 

dan4

Fresh Recruit
well those are very strong statements to make-----becareful:)

to be honest...its hard to say the clutches dont work....when it seems like the others in this said post who use this same clutch have had no problems---several of them using them for a while ---gt dan, jezza, sheldon, glanza dan, knightsy-ep91, danturbo4311, montanajr, gt-td04.....some say a little judder and then the cltuch settled....and they seem happy ever since

your client being the only person in this tread who had issues with the 2 clutches provided......and this is in perspective of this tread

well...i honestly hope u get it sorted out from the client's sake--- who seems to have been without a car for a while

Be careful of what, accurately describing what is a crap clutch much like other exedy's. Strong statements are only made on experience of this

Update.........Helix paddle clutch fitted this evening as guess what, it works:rockon:

The quality of the Helix clutch makes the Cap clutch look pathetic in all honesty

To be honest i expected a typical 'forum' response of 'well mine is ok' and an objection to technical knowledge stating the faults with these clutches. Respect is due to the last few people who have stood up and admitted problems with the clutches. I hope this proves something to the non believers.......

So now after pretty conclusive evidence all thats left is for Speedvision to arrange what happens now
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
Be careful of what, accurately describing what is a crap clutch much like other exedy's. Strong statements are only made on experience of this

Update.........Helix paddle clutch fitted this evening as guess what, it works:rockon:

The quality of the Helix clutch makes the Cap clutch look pathetic in all honesty

To be honest i expected a typical 'forum' response of 'well mine is ok' and an objection to technical knowledge stating the faults with these clutches. Respect is due to the last few people who have stood up and admitted problems with the clutches. I hope this proves something to the non believers.......

So now after pretty conclusive evidence all thats left is for Speedvision to arrange what happens now

well different experience from different users... i had a helix clutch with a daiken pressure plate before the cap.. was fine until it started slipping. then changed to cap and feel was exact like the setup i had before still with no problems till this day (hope nothing goes wrong now lol) but most of the users running cap had no problems including me... so what did you expect that we say cap are crap imidiatly once you posted here?? tbh never heard anything bad about them until this thread poped up! not even from ted.. anyway glad your problem is sorted.
 

mike_1984

Member +
just a little update, having changed absolutely nothing on the car since the second cap clutch was removed again, today a brand new helix paddle clutch went in.

I went for the helix because a few people i know run them and have never had any troubles, they were also very helpfull when i spoke to them.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, the helix went in this evening, fired her up not too long ago and the helix clutch works fine? slips into all gears fine without any of the horrid crunching i was getting from the cap clutches.

Now someone please correct me if i'm worng but surely this means that both the cap clutches i received were faulty, what more evidence do you need?!?

My friends got a load of pictures of the new helix going in and some comparisons, they'll probably be up tomorrow now as it's getting on, but even for a layman like myself, i'm sorry to say comparing the two makes of clutches they seem a world apart in build qualilty.

I'm ecstatic I now have a car i can go about getting taxed, mot'd and back on the road again, it's only been the best part of five months now? and hopefully speedvision will be somewhat more forethcoming in offering me atleast a refund for the bad cap clutch.
 

GT-TD04

Supermoderator
To be honest i expected a typical 'forum' response of 'well mine is ok' and an objection to technical knowledge stating the faults with these clutches.

Well it is,what else could i say?
I honestly had no problems with mine and ive had to rake it off 3 times now and re-fit it with no problems.
A mate of mine said he got one of the first batch and something about the rivet was sticking up too far? maybe thats it?
 

lvaleiron

Member +
just a little update, having changed absolutely nothing on the car since the second cap clutch was removed again, today a brand new helix paddle clutch went in.

I went for the helix because a few people i know run them and have never had any troubles, they were also very helpfull when i spoke to them.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, the helix went in this evening, fired her up not too long ago and the helix clutch works fine? slips into all gears fine without any of the horrid crunching i was getting from the cap clutches.

Now someone please correct me if i'm worng but surely this means that both the cap clutches i received were faulty, what more evidence do you need?!?

My friends got a load of pictures of the new helix going in and some comparisons, they'll probably be up tomorrow now as it's getting on, but even for a layman like myself, i'm sorry to say comparing the two makes of clutches they seem a world apart in build qualilty.

I'm ecstatic I now have a car i can go about getting taxed, mot'd and back on the road again, it's only been the best part of five months now? and hopefully speedvision will be somewhat more forethcoming in offering me atleast a refund for the bad cap clutch.

Glad to hear you sorted it out mate. Maybe you got 2 bad clutches or maybe it was another thing, because dan4 said you replaced the flywheel on the 2nd cap clutch, then again just a suggestion. Every user has a different experience on things and almost all the people that have used cap clutches haven´t had any problems with it.
 

mike_1984

Member +
just to clarify, the flywheel was sorted for the second cap clutch but it still didn't work, just glad the new helix one does :)
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
one thing i can see different from most of the users over here is that we got the clutch directly from CAP and you got it from speedvision.

once there was a guy who got a CAP clutch from sam and then he wanted a refund cos he found it was cheaper from CAP but sam told him that the ones sam sells are made specificly for him! and as we all know the clutches from CAP are for the MR2...

thats the only difference i can see...

ted.. where you got yours from?

sheldon
 

speedvision

Member +
one thing i can see different from most of the users over here is that we got the clutch directly from CAP and you got it from speedvision.

once there was a guy who got a CAP clutch from sam and then he wanted a refund cos he found it was cheaper from CAP but sam told him that the ones sam sells are made specificly for him! and as we all know the clutches from CAP are for the MR2...

thats the only difference i can see...

ted.. where you got yours from?

sheldon

clutches ordered thru me are shipped directly from cap to the customer..
yes my price is higher if you go thru me rather than cap.

sam
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
clutches ordered thru me are shipped directly from cap to the customer..
yes my price is higher if you go thru me rather than cap.

sam

they are they the same but?? as this guy i know you told him its not the same as you get from caps site
 
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