blitz jam mines etc ecus what the big £ about

Chris@CCM

Chris@CCM

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Loada of good tuners over here , Ecc ai auto sport steven guilt oma etc not sure if ur mean any thing with my tuning there but at one pont I had the most hp in the uk 424 hp and 404 ft lbs so I can't be too bad
 
Chris@CCM

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Il be happy to crarry out a test on a stock Gt say we use a apexi PFC , mines then stock all on the seam day , dyno , car , boost etc how's that sound
 
rage

rage

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i did a dyno run with the following mods:
rrfpr, safcII, wepr mani, 2,5" catback exhaust and decat on stock ECU (afr's were set up with a wideband) made 177horses the fly @ 1 bar

fitted a blitz acces and removed the fcd and set the fuel back to 2.3 bars and the car feels more agressive and a bit quicker.
hasn't been on a dyno yet but very curious about it myself to see what diffrence it makes.
 
williamocarroll1982

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christyep91 said:
basically in south Ireland a plug and play ecu seems to be the best value on a ct9 as gettin an piggyback or standalone fitted wired etc is a serious ride
also a lot of mappers don't seem to know what there at at all
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Ya there are some bad tuners down south but there are some good ones too and they aren't as dear as you might think considering their costs. Have you any idea how much a dyno is?
 
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mad_max926 said:
im making 190.6bhp on a jam ecu with the standard turbo! i love my ecu its worth £650 to me all day long i dont have to pay for a costly remap! i can sell it on for the same as wot i paid for its super rare, hayes dynotech in erith couldn believe how good the ecu was? also he had glanza in pictured on their flyers and is a member of one of the starlet forums and he made 209bhp on a apexi power fc and had many more upgrades than my car inc turbo i think.

when i arrived they asked me wot i had done to the car and asked me to estimate a figure i said 180 and they laughed and told me bout the power fc glanza that only made 209. they were shocked and impressed with my results p&p ftw in my opinion
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im running a standard ecu with standard turbo etc, just using an fcd and rrfpr and fuel pump, and an avcr to control the boost as made 190bhp on sanspeeds dyno, which is the same as hayes's. i know both very well.

so to me it doesnt seem like the ecu does anything extra?
 
williamocarroll1982

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im running a standard ecu with standard turbo etc, just using an fcd and rrfpr and fuel pump, and an avcr to control the boost as made 190bhp on sanspeeds dyno, which is the same as hayes's. i know both very well.

so to me it doesnt seem like the ecu does anything extra?
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I know your actually agreeing with me in what im saying but for the sake of fairness i must point out that peak power isn't really a fair comparison. The mid range power and torque could be totally different even if the peak power is the same
 
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williamocarroll1982 said:
I know your actually agreeing with me in what im saying but for the sake of fairness i must point out that peak power isn't really a fair comparison. The mid range power and torque could be totally different even if the peak power is the same
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yea only way we could compare is by seeing the graphs and comparing,

if its any help i made 182 lb/ft of torque
 
Chris@CCM

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Dyno test seam day seam dyno is the only way to go IMO who is gona put there car forword for the test lol I should be able to get my hands on the ecus has to be running stock boost
 
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im gonna say for the 90s technology available to blitz/jam/mines what they accomplished was really good. i achieved 200bhp plus on a td04 at a bar., car went well. BUT the fuelling was way rich , afr below ten and although i liked the pops and bangs in town , in the back of my mind i knew i hadnt a good map.

i was pissing fuel out the exhaust and losing power at the same time. so yes, great upgrade but if you want over 200hp and also would like 30mpg then look elsewhere.
 
Johnny_C

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ive drivin a glanza that came tuned by jam,jam ecu,jam actuator,jam fmic,the ecu was tuned for that exact car.
car went very well and made good power on the dyno from memory.
but the chance you take fitting an ecu that has a map for a different car on it is a big chance to take.
 
jjayokocha

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Jay said:
Even better - I got the perfect car for this if you have the dyno. My auto still has both the stock ecu installed and the Sard ECU just lying in the footwell as a footrest (lazy bastard syndrome). 30 secs swaps them. All we do is do a back to back run with the same turbo, same intercooler, same exhaust, same actuator, same muppet at the wheel, and both runs will be inside minutes of each other..
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Looking forward to seeing this. To be honest i think a lot of people just buy them for the name, i can't see any major advantage to running one. Seems to me they are just an expensive fuel pressure reg.
 
Jay

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Even better. I have some informationz on the Sard ECU we are using:

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"Analyse



Analyse is an ECU set to provide alteration of high boost & rev control at high speed driving, and provides accurate engine control in various conditions, such as partial range, street driving, and engine idling.



Resetting items of Analyse:

Fuel map resetting.
Ignition map resetting.
Rev limiter resetting.
Speed limiter cancellation.
Boost limiter cancellation.
It's strongly required to use high-octane gasoline after the replacement of ECU (in Japan "high-octane gasoline" values is 100~101%.



* When ordering Analyse, it is required to inform the serial number of your factory standard computer unit. Regardless of minor changes, the serial number of the factory standard computer may be modified. It is very important that buyer inform us the serial number on the factory standard ECU actually mounted on your vehicle helps to prevents unnecessary trouble.

Listed are the trade in prices of the factory ECU meaning you are required to send us your factory ECU for Sard re-writing the ECU data.

You may contact us for vehicles not listed here in the application chart. Sard is ready with analyzed computers for many different vehicles. Sard will be able to modify your factory computer data. (Note that certain vehicles cannot be modified)"


Here's the pricing details for the one we're using:

126170 / Analyse Computer / Starlet 96.01~97.12 EP91 / 4E-FTE A/T / 1.1 / JP ¥98,000

So that's circa £750GBP (!) new which gives it better deprecation rates than most supercars..

The 1.1 in there signals the boost that it will take. For the purposes of this test we cannot test the stock computer at that boost level so both units will be tested at stockish boost.

And yes, it's a Glanza ECU in a GT.

Jay
 
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