***Closing the Classifieds Section***

[argylefan1985]

maybe im just lucky but personaly ive never had a problem buying anything from here had a couple things now.
must just have been lucky maybe???

i havnt sold anything yet but id like to think regardless of my post count which is perhaps a little low as i do more reading than posting, people would still trust me regardless.

 

[dac69er]

i know it isnt the way to go at all but stopping trading still wouldnt stop scammers.

its like anything, you have to try and use your common sense as much as possible. sometimes it backfires but such is life.
without locking pretty much everything down, no selling, no pms and all posts having to be verified by a moderator before posting, it wont stop scamming and people messing others about on the forum.

 

[gglavin]

Holding personal information on members is one thing, but what is it going to be used for? I would think it to be a blatant breach of the Data Protection Act to pass such information onto a third party.

your dead right mate, you could get site closed, you can not have that amount of info on people, get sued & door opens to court. not possible.

 

[argylefan1985]

maybe we should up the post count to 100+

and make it harder to get the post count up, something like you only get post count in certain sections,

that way it gets rid of 90% of chancers as it means they really got to use the site and become part of the comunity,

it worked when we put the original 50 post count rule in,

that im definatly for welcome section posts shouldnt count towards the amount of posts people have jus like. hi welcome to tgtt etc its a joke

 

[GTti]

Maybe something like this:

http://vbenhancer.com/collection/itrader-version-2-5-0-new-generation-now-released/4783/

That is just a glorified reputation system.

I think idealy you need something that manages sales threads like the IMOC forum and has the feedback system built on top, that is visual and trackable.

 

[Texx]

Incrementing post counts from within the Technical sections only could work?

It's one of the most moderated areas of the site and difficult to get away with posting crap without getting noticed.

 

[faisalgtturbo]

what about a rep style system under the sig....
giiving some info on the person feedback from others
a scroll type thing

or a link to sales/ feedback section for that person

by tgtt classified mods and the mods rating for each person

faisal

 

[Texx]

That is just a glorified reputation system.

I think idealy you need something that manages sales threads like the IMOC forum and has the feedback system built on top, that is visual and trackable.

What system is used on IMOC.co.uk?

 

[GTti]

They use phpBB but I'm sure there must be an equivalent for vBulletin. It has a bot that actually closes the thread for you once the transaction is finialised and both seller and buyer have left feedback.

 

[Texx]

They use phpBB but I'm sure there must be an equivalent for vBulletin. It has a bot that actually closes the thread for you once the transaction is finialised and both seller and buyer have left feedback.

The only sales feedback system I could find for vBulletin was iTrader, which was what I posted.

 

[dac69er]

at the end of the day people will still be willing to risk paying money to people with no real history on the site if they are selling something rare or cheaper than the norm.

having a higher post count, but one that only counted up in the technical section would be good, but would require a certain amount of common sense as you can just put some real basic answers and bump your post count up reasonably easily. a little research on the part of the buyer is still needed.

another idea is to allow newer members with lower post counts (but still above the set limit) and no previous feedback to only sell cheaper items. if they wish to sell more expensive items then paypal has to be used to make payment (unless items are being picked up) and contact details have to be sent to the buyer including a mobile number and an address.

i realise this wouldnt stop everything, but its a start.

 

[Texx]

another idea is to allow newer members with lower post counts (but still above the set limit) and no previous feedback to only sell cheaper items.

It's a good idea in principle, but I'd think that would be a little difficult to moderate.

 

[GT-TD04]

your dead right mate, you could get site closed, you can not have that amount of info on people, get sued & door opens to court. not possible.

You get them to sign a wavier,or a statment claiming they wont go to court etc.

The information would not be to find the person etc,but to confirm they are who they are,the information would then be deleted.

Id have no problem with it.

Add having to have a certain amount of posts along with that,but (ive seen this on DTD) make posts not count in some area's/rooms.

Make the first 2 items the person sell to be under 100 and if they recieve good feedback (using the reputation for selling) the then get to sell at will according to the forum rules.

If someone really wants to sell something bad i doubt they'd disagree,and if they did they dont have to sell it here.
After all its a privellage,not a Right and as a global community measures can be taken for safer selling and buying.
It will never eliminate scammers,its their job,each day everyday,out only hope is to stop the bulk of them which id say TGTT staff have done pretty damn well in the years ive been a member.

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

your dead right mate, you could get site closed, you can not have that amount of info on people, get sued & door opens to court. not possible.

Correct... The Data Protection Act states that data must be relevant and fit for purpose. Storing information purely in case something goes wrong with a sale would be an absolute nightmare, especially in a country that regards data protection and financial crime as more important than actual crime...

 

[GT-TD04]

It's a good idea in principle, but I'd think that would be a little difficult to moderate.

We wouldnt want payment,we wouldnt even need a moderation title or power,we'd just click the report button.
And if you did need more moderators there'd be plenty to lend a hand im sure,i know id do both and im pretty sure other members would feel an injustice that someone is trying to break the rules when we followed them,which is harder.
We'd report them

 

[dac69er]

It's a good idea in principle, but I'd think that would be a little difficult to moderate.

if the feedback system was improved then it wouldnt be much harder to police. the threads already need to be authorised so if you could easily see their feedback it would be an easy call.

if the buyer or seller dont want to use paypal to secure the transaction it is their fault.

just an idea

 

[Texx]

By difficult to moderate, I mean it's something else that needs to be checked when approving for sale threads. It then becomes even more difficult when a for sale thread is submitted containing more than one item for sale and each item will also have a different price, not forgetting that for sale threads can also be edited by the OP once submitted and approved by a classifieds Mod.

We need to try and keep the whole process as simple as possible but at the same time ensure it's effective. It's very much easier said than done.

 

[Johnny_C]

ive held out from buying from a few people before because of their low post count and how long they have been on the site,no matter how much of a 'bargain' they were offering.
ive been caught before on here and didint see a penny from it.

 

[gglavin]

Correct... The Data Protection Act states that data must be relevant and fit for purpose. Storing information purely in case something goes wrong with a sale would be an absolute nightmare, especially in a country that regards data protection and financial crime as more important than actual crime...

ya i work with DPA & FSA, and if you breach the rules, you get fines & court date. different rules in Ireland & UK also other countries it would be a nightmare

 

[Iain@CRD]

ive held out from buying from a few people before because of their low post count and how long they have been on the site,no matter how much of a 'bargain' they were offering.
ive been caught before on here and didint see a penny from it.

Johnny has a really good point, theres always a certain criteria i personally look for before purchasing off anyone online.