300whp Jamaica style

Toyota T23

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"I will register my bias here for the USA dyno behaviour. Euro tuners tend to focus on flywheel hp, which is literally a made up figure unless you actually test hp at the flywheel."

We mesure EØF hp here in denmark, not the same.
Like said before, we get alot of angry peuple from UK at dyno meets here, and also when people import cars from US, they are no way NEAR those hp prommised, and dynod in USA.
 

hardcoreep

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We mesure EØF hp here in denmark, not the same.
If you're using a different measurement then I dont see why people would complain as long as you've made it clear. If you measure my car in inches and I measure my car in millimeters then of course we'd get different figures, because you're using a different scale. That doesn't mean my car isnt the length its supposed to be. My issue with the Euro dynos is that they're using the same scale/equipment, but saying something different.
 

Toyota T23

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If you're using a different measurement then I dont see why people would complain as long as you've made it clear. If you measure my car in inches and I measure my car in millimeters then of course we'd get different figures, because you're using a different scale. That doesn't mean my car isnt the length its supposed to be. My issue with the Euro dynos is that they're using the same scale/equipment, but saying something different.

Well, i never said your car isnt the length, you say.
But a car that makes 300hp in usa/your place/uk, wont make 300hp on our dyno. So hard to compare.

And who cares ?.
 

GP82

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ive made 167whp on a ct9 pal nice drive for the street

Made 153whp on ct9a with peak 18psi, was an awesome drive in the street!.
Peak torque from 3200 to 6700, it had a very broad power band, surprised so many and i believe this setup required more input and concentration from the driver, it sure was a rush of adrenaline every time or maybe i am jus' weak stepping out the car shaking like a addict :eek: :cool:
 

GT_REVVA

Fresh Recruit
i joined this site specifically to post in this thread. after my post i'll probably be banned. if that happens to be the case, i pray this post will be allowed to remain for future reference. i was a member here a while back and, after the site got hacked i just never re-registered because, basically, there's too much whining and moaning and generally nay-saying abound.

i want to start by saying that i agree with Chaddy : Rory, you would have been better off posting this on a website where it would be more appreciated...where people have been known to use their ingenuity, instead of dumping buckets and buckets of cash into a platform to achieve power levels that can be attained for a fraction of the cost.
As a US based tuner, i jumped into the 4E/5E game rather late compared to places like the UK, JA, AU, NZ etc as you guys have had these platforms at your disposal since their inception . i've consistently been impressed with the achievements made in this arena by the likes of people such as Rory, Spi, Chaddi, Juice, Max, Wicked Ep, Dale, Brownster as well as various other tuners - people who have used the ordinary available at their disposal and have produced extraordinary results...all except UK tuners it would seem (barring a select few of course).
in all honesty, you guys are the laughing stock of the EP tuning world because, the exorbitant amounts of cash you drop into your setups compared to the mediocre results you get are rather unimpressive and frankly, mind boggling. we can't even begin to imagine the numbers we would get if we had access to the pump fuel you guys have, or the financial resources you guys seem to squander for the lack luster results you appear so happy to have achieved (mainly because we can achieve those for A LOT less...in many cases with unopened motors). to top it off, when others come and try to enlighten, or at least try to show an alternate, more cost effective route, they're met with the close minded-ness displayed in this thread.

as Rory said, i'm not here for validation or to prove that my way is the best. i know what i know and i know what i'm capable of. i also know the potential of these platforms before you even have to contemplate opening the motor up. i've been boosting stock comp ratio 5EFHEs on 93 octane since 2003, on daily driven street rapists and, anyone who knows can testify that i always drive it like i stole it and, that i INTENTIONALLY try to break stuff. all i'm saying is, when the opportunity arises for you to actually LEARN something - SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND OPEN YOUR EARS (or in this case your eyes). you may find out that you missed a step in your initial approach to begin with.

that is all.
 

billybob

Untrusted Seller
any update on this build,:)and fella most people are doing some very inpressive builds over here not just in England but in Ireland also so mybe more impressive than you fellas over there
 
i joined this site specifically to post in this thread. after my post i'll probably be banned. if that happens to be the case, i pray this post will be allowed to remain for future reference. i was a member here a while back and, after the site got hacked i just never re-registered because, basically, there's too much whining and moaning and generally nay-saying abound.

i want to start by saying that i agree with Chaddy : Rory, you would have been better off posting this on a website where it would be more appreciated...where people have been known to use their ingenuity, instead of dumping buckets and buckets of cash into a platform to achieve power levels that can be attained for a fraction of the cost.
As a US based tuner, i jumped into the 4E/5E game rather late compared to places like the UK, JA, AU, NZ etc as you guys have had these platforms at your disposal since their inception . i've consistently been impressed with the achievements made in this arena by the likes of people such as Rory, Spi, Chaddi, Juice, Max, Wicked Ep, Dale, Brownster as well as various other tuners - people who have used the ordinary available at their disposal and have produced extraordinary results...all except UK tuners it would seem (barring a select few of course).
in all honesty, you guys are the laughing stock of the EP tuning world because, the exorbitant amounts of cash you drop into your setups compared to the mediocre results you get are rather unimpressive and frankly, mind boggling. we can't even begin to imagine the numbers we would get if we had access to the pump fuel you guys have, or the financial resources you guys seem to squander for the lack luster results you appear so happy to have achieved (mainly because we can achieve those for A LOT less...in many cases with unopened motors). to top it off, when others come and try to enlighten, or at least try to show an alternate, more cost effective route, they're met with the close minded-ness displayed in this thread.

as Rory said, i'm not here for validation or to prove that my way is the best. i know what i know and i know what i'm capable of. i also know the potential of these platforms before you even have to contemplate opening the motor up. i've been boosting stock comp ratio 5EFHEs on 93 octane since 2003, on daily driven street rapists and, anyone who knows can testify that i always drive it like i stole it and, that i INTENTIONALLY try to break stuff. all i'm saying is, when the opportunity arises for you to actually LEARN something - SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND OPEN YOUR EARS (or in this case your eyes). you may find out that you missed a step in your initial approach to begin with.

that is all.


Why would you get band for saying that dude its a good post.
 

riko666

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May I just point out - if you've ever heard mention of BYP (some from me), and crazy American stock internal setups, you're looking at the guy responsible; not to kiss his ass, but so would-be experts don't blindly commence their discrediting and dismissal of anything that doesn't follow their line of thought considering his achievements and expertise :rolleyes:
 
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Fatman

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i joined this site specifically to post in this thread. after my post i'll probably be banned. if that happens to be the case, i pray this post will be allowed to remain for future reference. i was a member here a while back and, after the site got hacked i just never re-registered because, basically, there's too much whining and moaning and generally nay-saying abound.

Not a chance you'll be getting banned. Everybody is entitled to their opinion so long as we're not getting into personal insults. Those opinions are always going to carry more weight coming from somebody with some direct personal experience and I dare say there's few with more than GT_REVVA!

Your knowledge would be an asset and you're more than welcome to stick around.
 

Sheldon

Malta Area Rep.
welcome on tgtt GT_REVVA ! any chance of a thread with some work of yours? intersting post btw..
 

ramses974

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STAY "TREVOR" a lot of guys will experiment your knowledge...

i can agree that you know a lof in4e/5e as i was one who bought an manifold with you..and i can agree that you are accessible...a BIG point when you are a newbie
 

Aga

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Keep up the good work rory! it's too bad you guys dont have proper fuel management units and you have to rely on the emanage, which personally i regard as a band aid piece of shit, but learning to tune the hard way, without relying on the "safety" of big dollar parts, is the right way. people still find it hard to believe that we tune starlets that run 1.5 bar with a t25 or t28 on stock internals...
 

GT_REVVA

Fresh Recruit
thanks for the welcome guys. i appreciate the love. with all due respect though, i don't want to turn this into a thread showcasing BYP's accomplishments. i just came here to say that we all have a common interest which is, tuning these unassuming micro beasts to surprise the living shit out of those who would never in a million years expect to get run up on by anyone of these pocket rockets.

we are from all over the world and we all take a different approach toward the same end result. everyone has their own recipe for 'the lemonade' so to speak. i own a car now that has been running ASI since being built in 2005 and, it's still holding up. i've also seen fully built forgies melt down with Pauter rods that came out of the block looking like bananas. it all comes down to knowing the limit of your machine and staying within those boundaries. I see someone above asked if the thread was dead and, honestly wouldn't be surprised if it is. the man started out by saying the info in this thread is stuff that has been closely guarded for YEARS by the pillars of the JA tuning community - record holders - legends even...then it was off to the races with the bullshit.

someone gave me some of the most profound advice i've ever heard to this day, quite a few years back. my fellow board members at TO.COM hear me say it all the time - "sometimes you have to know what you know, and leave others to know for themselves."
 

hardcoreep

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Ok. The owner is still waiting on his eManage ultimate. Secondly in some fit of insanity he's decided that he's going to go 4WD. He's already bought the parts and only needs the proper fuel tank for installation. He's opted to go this route because the gentleman that we gave the car to in order to sort out the Microtech has a 4WD fetish. That mechanic has converted several Toyota AE111 Levins, and the new Celica's using the old GT-Four running gear. As of this point I've kinda just backed off the project until sanity has been returned.

So just watch this space.
 
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