Frankieflowers
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hi guys! What brand and name do I have to buy. I need to align the new fte
clutch. Thanks
clutch. Thanks
4efe or 4afe box + 4efte in a Corolla E11?
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Jay
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Actually that's it there, just checked the code number on it : K73
https://www.importpartspro.com/atk73toyota.html
Cheap as chips. You could use an appropriately sized deep socket instead, really all you are doing is centralizing the centre of the clutch friction plate with the centre of the crank. Could nearly do it without a tool tbh.
https://www.importpartspro.com/atk73toyota.html
Cheap as chips. You could use an appropriately sized deep socket instead, really all you are doing is centralizing the centre of the clutch friction plate with the centre of the crank. Could nearly do it without a tool tbh.
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I wish I would have one in my toolbox as well.
I asked a few mechanics and they told me they don’t use any tool. They just center it with their hands then put the gearbox in and press the clutch pedal aiming that it centers by itself. I don’t know about this. I would preferred to have the original tool and be precise.I swear by a bit of brush shaft and tape if needs be
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you dont have that plastic tool?
Frankieflowers
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I do not have it. I bought the universal tool with the three different cabs and eventually it will work with some extra duct tape.
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Yes probably it will be easy but it’s the first time I do it. My mechanic I wanted to make sure I had the tools.Your doing this in the bench Frankie are you? Can line it up by eye then if the engine is out
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You mean a ECU pin out? I have it for the ep91.
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Hey @Jay !
My transmission started to make the ticking noise when accelerating or decelerating. We checked the drive shafts but it ain’t them. Back then we discussed how good the 4EFE corolla’s gearbox is on the FTE engine because of the gear rates. Do you think you can help me find one? I honestly haven’t had a chance to talk to someone that compared the gear boxes to essentially see the difference.
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My 4efe manual 5 gears gearbox worked perfectly fine on the Glanza V 4efte engine. It started to make a ticking noise. It must be the transmission. It also has synchronization issues. 250,000 km are enough. Now I need a new C 56 transmission and I might have found a LSD kit that could fit. I have to be sure that it works. What do you think about it?
Corolla E11 hatchback with 4efe 5 gears manual bell housing
30300-1A420 with C140, C150 gearbox
Starlet Glanza V ep91 4efte/4efe bell housing
30300-10430 with C50, C56 gearbox
My 4efe manual 5 gears gearbox worked perfectly fine on the Glanza V 4efte engine. It started to make a ticking noise. It must be the transmission. It also has synchronization issues. 250,000 km are enough. Now I need a new C 56 transmission and I might have found a LSD kit that could fit. I have to be sure that it works. What do you think about it?
Corolla E11 hatchback with 4efe 5 gears manual bell housing
30300-1A420 with C140, C150 gearbox
Starlet Glanza V ep91 4efte/4efe bell housing
30300-10430 with C50, C56 gearbox
Frankieflowers
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Starlet Glanza V 4efe/4efte, Starlet GT and Corolla 4efe have 3 different gearboxes
Jay
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Hi Frankie, sorry for the delayed response, been mad busy with building work recently.
The internals of a 4EFE box can't take the same battering as the turbo boxes but driving with a bit of mechanical sympathy helps them last a bit longer. Would make sense to replace your old gearbox with a turbo gearbox if you had the option. It will be stronger and you will cruise at a lower RPM thanks to the gear ratios. It'll be slightly slower to 100mph but be nicer to drive overall, the engine won't feel as stressed.
When you say yours is 'ticking' what do you mean? (When warm/when cold/in motion/at idle/high RPM/low RPM/etc etc)
Also worth draining the oil into a clean container and checking for metal filings.
The internals of a 4EFE box can't take the same battering as the turbo boxes but driving with a bit of mechanical sympathy helps them last a bit longer. Would make sense to replace your old gearbox with a turbo gearbox if you had the option. It will be stronger and you will cruise at a lower RPM thanks to the gear ratios. It'll be slightly slower to 100mph but be nicer to drive overall, the engine won't feel as stressed.
When you say yours is 'ticking' what do you mean? (When warm/when cold/in motion/at idle/high RPM/low RPM/etc etc)
Also worth draining the oil into a clean container and checking for metal filings.
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No problem. You are always kind.
The sound that I hear is mostly when the engine is cold and it feels like to pieces of metal hitting each other in the lower right side of the engine. I would say the gearbox. It does it only when the car is running in gear. If I press the clutch the sound disappears. You only hear it when you are accelerating or suddenly dropping the gas pedal. At first I thought it was the right drive shaft but again if I press the clutch the noise disappears.
I do not have a chance to get a turbo gearbox because there are none available and those available are extremely expensive. If you could help me find one I would be grateful!
The sound that I hear is mostly when the engine is cold and it feels like to pieces of metal hitting each other in the lower right side of the engine. I would say the gearbox. It does it only when the car is running in gear. If I press the clutch the sound disappears. You only hear it when you are accelerating or suddenly dropping the gas pedal. At first I thought it was the right drive shaft but again if I press the clutch the noise disappears.
I do not have a chance to get a turbo gearbox because there are none available and those available are extremely expensive. If you could help me find one I would be grateful!
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If I’m driving normally and I keep a constant speed. There is no noise until I accelerate giving the transmission let’s say a shock. I hear it louder when the car engine is cold. I think it’s the gearbox. Not thr transmission.That sounds like the thrust bearing/clutch release bearing is going bad Frankie.
Say your just driving normal, top gear and you hear it, then when you press the clutch the noise stops.
A relatively cheap and easy part to swap, just need the gearbox out
It is not like this noise in the video. You hear the noise only when you accelerate or drop the gas pedal. I hear like two pieces of metal hitting each other like something is off site or loose.
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I have a question for you. Did you ever pull a EP 91 or EP 82 gearbox apart and compare it with a 4efe C140-150 gearbox? I have been trying to understand, besides the gear length difference, what makes the turbo gearboxes stronger. Technically the gears should be thicker. Correct?
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