4efe or 4afe box + 4efte in a Corolla E11?

Frankieflowers

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I thought we worked through the whole 'buying another car' thing a few pages back lol.
I know
I just answered my friend here that has his point but the costs will be too high to turbo charge my engine because it’s too old and...we’ve been through this already.

Regarding the intercooler pipes, I hear what you’re saying and I’ll work on the geometry of the pipes as soon as I get the engine swapped in the Corolla. The shop that is got to the cat the exhaust will definitely be happy to weld the intercooler pipes.
 
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RoyalDutchie

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I would at least advise you to get a 4efte which has been rebuild by a reputable person. I can't help with this but it will save you in the long run. Getting one rebuild at your mechanic will set you back more for sure in parts and labor. A rebuild engine would ensure it can be dropped in without the higher risk of failure which comes with old unopened engines.

If an unopened engine is already going to set you back 3000 you'll be moving towards a swap which is going to cost you 4500+
 

Frankieflowers

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A rebuild engine would ensure it can be dropped in without the higher risk
I completely agree but unfortunately I don’t have the budget to spend extra €2000 for a rebuilt 4EFTE. TUNING DEVELOPMENTS sell it for €2350 but all the other parts are missing and I need the whole kit. The engine I am buying ran 88,000 km. I know the risk I am taking but I cannot buy the parts I need separately that will come with my purchase. Again I would but it’s hard to find them and I need something to start with. I hope you understand what I mean. If you have any idea or you know we shop that can give me the whole kit I will consider it immediately. Thank you
 

RoyalDutchie

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I completely agree but unfortunately I don’t have the budget to spend extra €2000 for a rebuilt 4EFTE. TUNING DEVELOPMENTS sell it for €2350 but all the other parts are missing and I need the whole kit. The engine I am buying ran 88,000 km. I know the risk I am taking but I cannot buy the parts I need separately that will come with my purchase. Again I would but it’s hard to find them and I need something to start with. I hope you understand what I mean. If you have any idea or you know we shop that can give me the whole kit I will consider it immediately. Thank you
I do not know of any shops or persons selling complete rebuild engines with all the bits and bobs needed for the swap.

Just make sure to swap the rear end crank seal where the flywheel is installed before your mechanic swaps it in. They tend to leak on nearly every 4e engine. If you are getting the timing belt done also get the front crank seal replaced they are not to expensive and is easily done together with the timing belt.
 

Frankieflowers

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Here I am with a crazy idea.

4efte swap matched to 4efe gearbox in a Corolla vs 4efte (my default project) or 3sgte swap matched to a 7afe 4WD gearbox/tranny. I found a rare Corolla 4WD that has been sold only on the Swiss and Australian market for 2000 euros ish. I spoke to a guy in Germany that owns a AE115 with 3sgte. He said that the tranny holds the torque even if it should be for 110 ps. The option is to buy a GT Four ST185 or ST 205 3sgte with AWD tranny and rear subframe.

What do you think about it?
 

SKINY

Lifer
Gt-four prices have went up well in the last few years in the UK, good luck getting something cheap that's not beat :)
 

Jay

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Hate to be the guy that does the reality check but still..

The things putting you off the 4EFTE engine swap are multiplied (many times over) on a full 3SGTE engine and drivetrain swap.
 

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Lifer
Dont even start me on earlier rev2/3 3sgte,s lol

Frankie, just bolt a turbo kit to the rolla then worry about this :)
 

Frankieflowers

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Hate to be the guy that does the reality check but still..

The things putting you off the 4EFTE engine swap are multiplied (many times over) on a full 3SGTE engine and drivetrain swap.
LOL I know...you’re right. But the feeling to drift like those Russian guys on Youtube is crazy! My mechanic found a ae115 for €1950 and a 3sgte for €2400. This engine in early can cost €9000. It’s without gearbox but it has a Turbo, ECU and Intercooler. 115k Km. Compression test is great. Do you think it would be a business to buy it and sell it for €4000/5000k? Let me know what you think.
P.S. i’m still focused on my main projects guys 1610144348248.png
 

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Lifer
Your nuts lol :)
What year is the gt-four, how many miles, service history etc, you say the compression is great so that's 1 big worry with them sorted.
The earlier st185 used a paper head gasket and the st205 used a metal gasket, rev 2/3 engines then when they brought out the st215 it was revised slightly again rev4/4.5 then the final rev5 in our st246.
:)
 

Frankieflowers

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Your nuts lol :)
What year is the gt-four, how many miles, service history etc, you say the compression is great so that's 1 big worry with them sorted.
The earlier st185 used a paper head gasket and the st205 used a metal gasket, rev 2/3 engines then when they brought out the st215 it was revised slightly again rev4/4.5 then the final rev5 in our st246.
:)
The engine is a ST205. Don't know the year.
 
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