Never ending issues......**UPDATE - 26/08/10**

Rory

Lifer
Ill check again Ted, but im sure ive already done that.

My next trick to try is to shove a spark plug straight into the coil and see if the coil is working. Mabey rule out a king lead failure??
 

Rory

Lifer
Right, poked a plug in the coil and gave myself a hooeerin shock :haha:

So it points to either the king lead or distributar now i suppose?
 

sx_turbo

Lifer
have you tried a different king lead?

distributors can break down over time, it may be worth swapping for a known working distributor
 

Rory

Lifer
Its something i dont ahve spare :(, ill speak with Mark tomorow and see if he has a spare i can borrow, alsong with a distributor aswell (and coil) lol

Ive got 2 distributors here, surely they both couldnt be goosed? Or sods law they are...
 

Rory

Lifer
The coil is certainly getting sumin.... :D

Lewis, doubt its the map sensor, can only be either king leads or leads in general, distributor, cap or arm.
If the coil is getting power and can output it, then it can only be one of the above.
 

weeJohn

Lifer
Coils can break down under certain conditions, damp is the main issue but the fact you say it is doing it when cold more than hot makes me think its it.

The 2 wire plug that connects to the coil has a 12 volt from IG2 and an earth connection. If the earth connection is not good when the coil is charged it may be earthing to the body of the coil through bad insulation and not giving the full power out. The ignitor bit needs to be earthed to the body so you cant remove it from the bulkhead, but check the earth in the plug is good.

Have you tried a wider gap in the plugs to see if it happens earlier in boost? thats a good sign of a coil breaking down when you give it more work to do.

A bad king lead will give these symptoms as well so try another one of them if you can also.
 

starletsam

Member +
I would defo check the map sensor and connections.when I wired in my boost controller I put the map sensor connections (had a built in fcd) the wrong way round and it caused the problems you mentioned but alot worse.car kept turning off and misfired on boost ect ran like death until I realised then it was fine.so maybe your connection is bad or something?considering you have changed everything else numerous times it definately seems a possibility!
 

Rory

Lifer
It wont even fire up now, i have 3 wet plugs and one dry one now....... Can only be ignition related now.
Ill check the earth wire on the plug though thats a good shout. :)

It was breaking down from Sunday onwards, littery started at 1.4 at mapping, then 1.2 then at base of 0.9 bar at .6mm plug gap, oh the joys :p

Coils can break down under certain conditions, damp is the main issue but the fact you say it is doing it when cold more than hot makes me think its it.

The 2 wire plug that connects to the coil has a 12 volt from IG2 and an earth connection. If the earth connection is not good when the coil is charged it may be earthing to the body of the coil through bad insulation and not giving the full power out. The ignitor bit needs to be earthed to the body so you cant remove it from the bulkhead, but check the earth in the plug is good.

Have you tried a wider gap in the plugs to see if it happens earlier in boost? thats a good sign of a coil breaking down when you give it more work to do.

A bad king lead will give these symptoms as well so try another one of them if you can also.

The car wont start, but the map sensor wires were done just not long ago and i know there good.
Thanks for the help anyway buddy

I would defo check the map sensor and connections.when I wired in my boost controller I put the map sensor connections (had a built in fcd) the wrong way round and it caused the problems you mentioned but alot worse.car kept turning off and misfired on boost ect ran like death until I realised then it was fine.so maybe your connection is bad or something?considering you have changed everything else numerous times it definately seems a possibility!
 

weeJohn

Lifer
Its not a crankshaft sensor as such, its a pointed rotor in the distributor that sees the exhaust cam position and sends a signal to the ecu.

He has already changed the distributor so it has been ruled it out.
 

Rory

Lifer
****UPDATE*******

After going through everything that was said on this thread, it turned out to be something very fecking simple.....

The king lead (which is under 4 months old) has given up playing ball. :(

Reason i know this is, after making up a make shift king lead from an old lead and custom ends, it fired into life on the 1st barrel....

My advice, never buy Magnecor, but they are the only leads that are not bad on price :(
Feck knows what ill do in regards to them, as im not paying £80 on leads every 4-6 months

Anyone have any thoughts on leads now?

Rory
 

pc18

North West England Area Rep.
glad you got it sorted can you not get a replacement or refund if it has failed in such a short amount of time. maybe worth giving them a ring.
 

Mark-ep91

Member +
****UPDATE*******

After going through everything that was said on this thread, it turned out to be something very fecking simple.....

The king lead (which is under 4 months old) has given up playing ball. :(

Reason i know this is, after making up a make shift king lead from an old lead and custom ends, it fired into life on the 1st barrel....

My advice, never buy Magnecor, but they are the only leads that are not bad on price :(
Feck knows what ill do in regards to them, as im not paying £80 on leads every 4-6 months

Anyone have any thoughts on leads now?

Rory

glad ya got it sorted:)

only thing i have to say bout leads is magnacore are very badly made i was swapping leads with a friend the other day and pulled out the king lead from the coil and from the dizzy and each side the metal piece broke off and stayed in the dizzy and coil:eek:
 

wickedep

Trader
i have NGK leads rory..had them for a few years at least...has given no trouble at all. glad you got your issue sorted...its usually something really simple that end up giving you sleepless nights heh :)

sacha
wickedEP Racing
 
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